GSR 800

John,even a 29000(the horror) won't set it right. The only way to do it is to crop your images!

I guarantee it will work. I will send money to you for a pint if it doesn't

You over threatened it didn't you?

Yes. I threatened my iPad with a run in a 29000. It worked.

Ahh..I just pointed a shotgun at it.

All the right way up? Did you figure out the secret John?

Correct, minister.

 

As a parallel but separate issue is the fact that it does seem fairly clear that official standards are lacking - or else the public's perception is. Both have one common denominator - the education system. Either teach it correctly and effectively, or give it up....

"Conas a tu ta" still gets a few laughs in the classroom!

They absolutely weren't, Minister! While the GSR was still solvent and a private company, it was clear that things weren't getting any better for them financially, and the government gave them little option. Obviously, they also took over the Dublin United Tramways Co., though this WAS solvent.

 

Sometimes governments can put pressure on private companies without actually taking them over. However, the GSR directors apparently were being convinced that by taking on these two other entities, all might be good....

The canal was doomed once railways came to Ireland. Didn't One of the companies propose draining a canal and lay then track on the canal route?

Of course one of the reasons the state didn't fund them was probably got to do with the fact that they were building the 400s and the 900s, and after that the 509s, some of the largest locos ever built in Ireland!

Fantastic stuff. If I had half your skill, I would be a happy man.

Just recalling a snippet from the McNeill/Murray history of the GS&WR, that the board of the GS&W approached the new Irish govt for aid in the aftermath of the Civil War, giving more or less an ultimatum that they were prepared to close down the entire system such were the losses incurred.

 

Wonder how serious they were about that?

Could have just been a plan to intimidate the government into funding, like what the GNR did in 53,except (both) governments took them more serously. I think JB might know more about that then me..

Well, if Ireland had remained a single jurisdiction, no border would have meant one owner nationally, whether under Irish or British rule. So no NCC, no GNR, no CDRJC, no BCDR, no GSWR, no CBSCR, no MGWR etc...

 

Either an all Ireland UTA (in which case they probably have closed everything but Dublin - Cork) or an all Ireland CIE, meaning in either case standard designs across the island. The entire railway history would have been completely different.

 

141s into Derry, MPD cars in West Cork..... anything.

But would it be a state owned company, or a GSR type company. Great Irish Railways?

Probably not, come to think of it...

Would there even be an NCC? What a horrible might have been...

Would there even be NCC jeeps?

As John said,Both were relatively modern, and if a certain design proves better than others,obviously other companies would follow maybe the GNR were influenced by the NCC,however some W class had older "MR" style tenders which looked ancient!

Working signals whether semaphore or light always add a great extra dimension of reality to a layout.

 

One of the unique things at Tara Junction is seeing a carriage going round with a model of "The Wanderer", camera in hand, standing at an open door window in one vestibule of a Craven!

Your joking! Pics please! Unless I have been tricked..

Bummer! Looks like I'll have to save up big time then nevermind thanks Harry.

i better start saving meself!

Nelson, here's your answer

"And no we can't sell them unpainted, the reason being that some parts are painted as we go through assembly, and are only sold as ready to run items".

He also told me that rivets will also be on the U.

Epic! And neat and tidy too, inspirational stuff

What are the 'Fangs"and when were they fitted? The A's didn't always have a double headlight?

Not sure what the fangs are, but no they didn't always have headlights, they acquired them after their rebuilding.

Dave is your only man! I'm sure he will be along soon..

Looks great so far Kirley! The details can be tricky, but just take your time, and don't let them get to close to the soldering iron!

Guys, I know I'm not a moderator but can we PLEASE get back on topic which is about the UG and U class. Has anyone found out if you can buy them unpainted? I would rather paint my own to keep costs down.

I sent them an inquiry about that Nelson, hopefully they will get back

I thought you were talking about a J15!

Even they won't bring back steam to that unfortunate railway, GSR.

Think about trains, think about trains,think about trains...

Steam trains of course!

Vaginal tablets! Dear lord!

Nonsense? I think you should mind your manners there Harry. No problems with differing opinions, but manners cost nothing, unlike tooling of a RTR locomotive. €150,000 for an obscure prototype who someone is working to make a kit of would be commercial suicide.

 

As for the J15s, yes a minefield of variants but modular tooling and planning would allow to cater for the more popular types. Make a hell more sense than doing 461.

you could just do a J15 from early years, then one or two types in the GSR era, and the rest in CIE and preservation era, maybe 6-7 variants when brought down to that?