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Must track that issue down. There are photos of 113 on the goods train at Ballyclare in the summer of 1945 by Des Coakham. Who has his photo archive? According to Scott's book 110 was scrapped by mid 1946. Yet in JIC Boyd's book he visited the line in March 1950 and describes finding a compound tank being scrapped. Was this 110? Books also contain errors one shows 42 at Ballycastle in 1950 but it is actually 41! Another photographer has 42 on the Ballycastle line and at Larne both in May 1950!

5 hours ago, Gavin Hamilton said:

There is a photograph in the Mike Morant collection, taken in Larne NG shed,  showing UT livery.

Gavin

Thanks that's one I have not seen before. From what I can gather the last goods train ran when the Paper Mill closed in May 1950. Was kept in Larne with 113 of which photos are scarce after 1945?

Did 42 get repainted in UT livery or is this just another urban myth?

43 got UT crests between March and May 1950 before closure. Have seen a photo of 42 on Ballyclare branch in March 1950 in neat NCC livery. Have also seen photos of 42 in last week of goods traffic still in NCC livery. Have also seen a photo of a compound tank in the 1930s with a different type of NCC lettering. By March 1950 41 and 44 had been repainted with slight differences in position of UT crest etc!

Will be useful for the restoration of Coach 58.

1 hour ago, Gavin Hamilton said:

I checked the Mid Antrim Narrow Gauge book and I found 2 published pictures of the 0-6-0T's and 6 of the Cushandall 0-4-2T's north of Ballymena but none of an S class on that line, I've only seen one leaving Ballymena for Parkmore so this might be the only photograph seen. It looks like the BCRBR is a very rarely photographed line and having checked the closure dates against what could have been in service there must have been an S class over the whole length of the line, even hauling track removal trains when it closed

Gavin

Line was open for goods mainly creamery traffic from Rathkenny. till 1940. Closed to Parkmore/Retreat by 1937. Have come across yesterday another photo of a compound tank heading north out of Ballymena on a goods train. Also found photo of 43 in Match 1950 with no UT crest yet it had one by May 1950!

18 hours ago, Mayner said:

I guess we might have to consider a rtr GNR(I) bogie Bulk Grain/Guinness wagon.

I seem to "have a thing" about bulk grain wagons, I scratchbuilt an O Gauge one in tin plate on a Triang Big-Big Train chassis for the 1st MRSI O gauge layout many moons ago.

Some references to the GNR Guinness Van's in IRRS Journal 41 including a great photo on page 333.

The Michael Bunch diaries in 2 volumes from the Donegal Railway Heritage Centre would be useful as well.

Like many people have taken out subscriptions to my regular railway magazines due to Easons etc being closed still as lockdown eases. The publisher should be able to help?

See Irishswissernie

There is a person in this group who bought a lot of the Casserley collection recently. Possible that Casserley visited the branch itself as it closed to passengers in the same year.

Casserley took photos of this line in 1930 before it closed to passengers with coach 318 in the train.

What a out Tooban Junction which no access at all.

16 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

The two would have looked very different, as the UTA and NCC style of lining were totally different. I looked up that pic - interesting stuff!

Photos taken in Ballycastle in 1950 show that 41 and 44 have different size UT crests and no NCC markings. The IRRS have a photo of 42 on the Larne NG line in March 1950 in very neat a d clean NCC livery with no UT markings! Pattern there is no pattern.

Photo was by NW Sprinks taken in May 1953 of loco 43 at Ballymoney. This appeared in Steam Days May 2014 and shows clearly the UT crest applied on top of the middle C! There are photos of same loco in July 1954 in NG in Colour book but angle is less clear

 There is a good photo of 43 in July 1949 in smart NCC livery in latest version of Ballycastle Railway. Same book has clear photos of 41 and 44 in UT livery in 1950 with no NCC markings at all.

According to Locos of NCC book it was 81. Found a photo today taken in 1953 of one of the NG tanks at Ballymoney with the UT Crest placed over the NCC letters! Looking for something else of course.

90 was in Brunswick Green like BR? Towards the end of WW2 NCC 81 was sent to Dundalk for overhaul and returned in fully lined LMS Maroon!

There is a picture in Locos of the NCC book taken about the same time of 4 stating that it had the NCC letters painted over as well.

35 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

This is a puzzle as it appears nowhere in Senior’s notes. Thus I do not know where it is or when.

I strongly suspect, though, that it is the lifting train on the Banbridge - Knockmore Junction line about 1958.

 

Looks more like a weed killer train to me?

There are some good photos of DBST wagons in that book on the DBST published locally in 2009.

4 hours ago, Midland Man said:

No but I will keep it in mind.

I have been looking at the Osi maps and have seen that the stations on the line were more like halts. There are a few with loops but they are not common. So I am going to build the model as just a straight line to make it look realistic. As for stock I am going to have to get into contact with the IRRS.

Published in 2009 with 96 pages of good photos and interesting detail about the DBST. Will help with your research for sure.

Good colour photo of 27 on back of IRRS Journal 177

 Says it is 1969 but think it is probably 1967?

MM have you come across the book on the DBST by Aidan Curtis? It has lots of photos and some great stories about this long lost railway/tramway.

Colour photos of 26 in 1964 show no UTA markings except number on the bunker

 But am sure 27 had acquired an UTA coat of arms by the 1960s?

There are good colour photos of Lough Melvin both taken in 1964. One is at Adelaide and the other at York Road with no UTA Crest

 See Steam Age in Colour and Volume 11 The Steaming Sixties.