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Not keen on the external paint job. I know they're trying to incorporate that soulless Origami Tricolour logo into the design. The big areas of white or off white will look dirty in a very short time.

Kilmallock, Buttevant, Blarney.

13 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

 

the only real candidate for a RTR Irish steam locomotive 

 

If there's a suitable chassis out there, can't see a reason why someone couldn't 3D print a body, bar getting hold of an accurate drawing for such an unusual short lived loco could be tricky.

11 hours ago, LNERW1 said:

That is precisely what I think could be done with the Portlaoise railway i mentioned above! The passenger stock might be a problem, as I am aware that the Stradbally Woodland Railway has problems with using BnM wagon underframes for any passenger stock due to some insurance problem, I presume the freight-oriented nature of the wagons, which would make the chassis less safe for passenger use(?).

Waterford and Suir Valley can get what I assume are modern purpose built passenger coaches.

BnM could too, if they had any imagination or even the faintest interest. But whatever makes money with minimal effort I guess (scrap)

It would have been an easy win to take one rehabilitated bog and make it accessible by rail, reusing some of the old equipment. 

Not everyone has the ability or inclination to hop on a bike on a greenway, which I believe some of the trackbed will be converted to. Even just to access parts of it with equipment for maintenance.

3 hours ago, Horsetan said:

Who's to say that the Drumm battery system itself couldn't be further developed?

WW1 part 2 was always going to mean that materials to expand or at least keep that going were to be in short supply.

No offence, but (usually said by those who tend to offend) the 800 class were a waste of resources given their limited usefulness and smack of a vanity project. As far as I can see built for just one purpose, to start out of Cork without a pilot.

Perhaps with a bit more thought, the J15 Nua class could have been improved from the disappointments they turned out to be? A Jeep-like loco would have been an ideal, go most anywhere loco, but unlike today there was no shortage of operational turntables for tender engines.

OHLE was tried and trusted by the 20s and 30s, perhaps that could have been adopted for Dublin suburban rather than the Drumm units in a what if scenario?

28 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

The one on the right is almost certainly a dud. Bright white paper and felt-tip pen....prior to 1961! But, look closer..... by BUS!

Is this a more modern-day copy done thus, or just a plain dud?

 

Not even a hint of yellowing, and a rail worker going to the effort of writing 'Ford' in that company's font, really? It looks like it's written with a black Sharpie, first sold in 1964!

If it was an excursion for Ford employees only, why put it on a poster (intended for general public)?

Everything about the second one is suspect!

37 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

The one on the right is almost certainly a dud. Bright white paper and felt-tip pen....prior to 1961! But, look closer..... by BUS!

Is this a more modern-day copy done thus, or just a plain dud?

 

Rail and Bus. But the whole thing looks fabricated.

I'd say the poster is genuine, a little sceptical about the pencilled in details. Why would they go to the trouble of writing that out and not paste it up?

+1 for another J15 breakdown, worm slipping on the shaft if I recall. Fixed free of charge. 

On 1/4/2024 at 1:07 AM, Westcorkrailway said:

Lovely model, shame about how they run themselves into the ground…

I suspect bunker capacity may have limited usefulness on longer runs and aprés amalgamation there was no shortage of handier locos available to poke around the city quays and Courtmac.

12 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

As 00 Works showed with their CBSCR 0.6.0ST, obscurity is quite possible! There can be few prototypes more obscure than these, but it sold out I believe. As for the first IRM one, and the foregoing being the case, it could be absolutely anything under the sun. Availability and suitability of the internal gubbins may have a big say in determining what it will be.

Tacked on to production of the identical British based locos, just a different coat of paint and number plates. If it were a stand alone Irish obscure model, it may not have fared as well.

On 1/3/2024 at 1:21 AM, WRENNEIRE said:

Any idea if this is Railway related?

Safety lamp? Probably not railway.

27 minutes ago, Newtoncork said:

I can understand a local initiative like this causing a lot of pain for Kerry County Council. But you could argue that a national transport museum being a national and internationally important collection should be part of the National Museum of Ireland and funded centrally. After all the Dublin and Castlebar museums are also national collections. Museums Galleries Scotland are funded by the Scottish government and have locations across the country.

Maybe we're not thinking big enough for a transport museum!

 

Apart from a brief exhibition on travel posters at NM, the powers that be up in the NM haven't the faintest interest in railways.

Even in that exhibition, the emphasis was placed on the history of the tourist trade and the poster artists rather than the railways themselves.

18 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

There's never been any problem thinking big in Ireland. The problem is obtaining the money after thinking big....

It's not even that. The money was there for the initial steam railway, and in a rich country now money shouldn't be a problem, but interest to keep it alive/interest in a reboot is the rock it founders upon. Always.

1 hour ago, Horsetan said:

It's abundantly clear they have no interest in commissioning or funding the survey they claim is necessary, so no decision will ever be needed.

Meanwhile, open season for any metal thieves who fancy lifting the rails and chairs, followed by stripping of the stock...

Usual kicking the can down the road. Wash, rinse, repeat for next meeting.

2 hours ago, irishmail said:

Does anyone actually use twitter?   

I find it useful to complain about things when I'm out of options, most, not all, companies tend to take notice of public shaming when they ignore direct emails.

4 hours ago, Horsetan said:

Nothing will have changed in 25 years' time. 

"But until such time as we know how good or how bad the condition of the tracks and train is, we can’t make a decision."

Sadly nothing will, that bunch haven't a Scooby Doo.

On today's "someone should do something" news, Blenderville is brought up at a council meeting...

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/kerry/tralee-news/no-sign-of-tralee-blennerville-steam-train-coming-down-the-tracks-just-yet/a1367704916.html

My aunt in the uk was a great one for picking up second hand books and passing them on to me, some really old ones too; I was convinced that Ceylon and Rhodesia still existed. I was given one book from the original Railway Series (which somehow survived to this day) and bought maybe a handful of later Ladybird style of Thomas books in the 80s, the illustrations looked like stills from the Ringo era shows. I never watched the TV shows, as we had a two channel house.

11 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

A person on Facebook said (and when your only source is Facebook you know your in Trouble) said that one of Audrey’s stories was directly inspired by one incident on the Cork and Macroom Railway. The incident in question happened in 1952. The post was accompanied with the following article. I, naturally, have never followed this up with any further research….So take with a pinch of salt! 
 

if this is true, then making up a train of some cattle wagons and a GSWR F6 tank engine shouldn’t be to hard to recreate. 

A bit of a blood bath for what is a kids book, no?

Catering would be "nice to have" but if the costs don't stack up, well then. The way people go on you'd swear it was Michelin starred grub, that it was not, certainly not in the 90s at any rate. Journeys here are short compared with elsewhere so I don't think there is a need for it, especially to humor people who either never travel or hop on board once in a blue moon just to complain.

Curtains on windows, a near useless piece of fabric to be dragged around, get grubby or gather dust and needing replacement. People don't even have curtains in modern houses anymore! Other railways have pull-down blinds but our sun is rarely strong enough to warrant these and knowing the public, they would be wrecked in jig time.

The one thing I do miss is the ability to order or bring my own beer on board like most any other country in the world but thanks to a minority of people who are chronically unable to behave themselves and a lack of deterrents here we are. This is a society wide problem and not exclusive to rail. If AGS are unwilling or unable to provide anything more than a sporadic, reactive patrolling of public transport, a dedicated transport police is needed like most other countries, I don't see why we have to be an exception.

80s nostalgia. 1984, when it was a few years since they had the worst accident on this island in living memory? A cash starved system sometimes literally held together with baler twine? Do we really want to return to that??

41 minutes ago, DoctorPan said:

 

You would be surprised at how endearing the BnT is in the eyes of the public as meaning poor train service. There's people who think the silver 201s are completely different locos to the the BnT 201s.

 

The general public also for instant offen still move towards the front of the train for Portarlington despite the fact that the platform has been extended for decades at this stage.

Proving my point that the public are rather dense.

9 hours ago, DoctorPan said:

That colour scheme is toxic in the eyes of the public! 

I don't think the Irish public outside of enthusiasts pay much attention, there are adults now who won't remember orange and black anyhow.

Likewise I don't think the public really care all that much what colour scheme the trains are provided it takes them from a to b in comfort and on time at a reasonable cost. It's more image consultants trying to justify their fees and a way of hoodwinking people into thinking they have a "new" train until they hop in and find out it's the same stock with a lick of paint that still arrives late!