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Just regular vans were used, no dedicated fish only vans I'm aware of.

Imagine if they did a GAA related series and fecked it up, or a historical documentary and showed a pic of Collins and said it was Dev, as they're both two ould rebels who fought in 1916, like, who cares...there would be uproar. Joe Duffy would be inundated.

But broadcast any poorly researched railway shyte, and no one complains.

Well meaning but unrealistic Euro-twaddle. No quick buck to be made hence no interest.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2023/01/17/the-south-kerry-greenway/

This time aimed at food anoraks. Let's see how many rail related things they get hopelessly wrong!

1 hour ago, leslie10646 said:

Actually, there's no need to emulate that autocracy.

When they decided to get on with Midleton -  Oliver Doyle and Co, spurred on their boss Dick Fearn, literally did sweep into Co Cork to bulldozer their way through the overgrowth to rediscover the trackbed. Jim Mead strikes me as a guy who will spur another generation to similar acts.

Only because Midleton wanted it and was hoarse from shouting for it. Youghal on the other hand, couldn't care less. Railway...greenway...briars... like whatever man.

IR left to its own devices would never have reopened it.

They don't call the NTA the No Trains Authority for nothing.

https://www.live95fm.ie/news/live95-news/rail-works-causing-homes-privacy-and-security-to-be-stripped-away/

Home owners: we need to meet climate targets and there's too many big lorries on the roads.

Also home owners: but a train driver will be able to see into my house now.

Some people seriously need to give their heads a wobble. I bet these same sorts would often be the ones using the railway at the end of their precious property as their own personal rubbish tip. Some cheeky sod in Foynes threw his busted home heating oil tank over the wall into the station yard no less.

Mostly it was a shorter, dumpy-looking sort of lamp used here. The GSWR and GNRI marked their initials on their lamps. Railway Signal Co supplied the GN, the GSWR likely made up their own themselves in Inchicore. 

8 hours ago, Branchline121 said:

If it were to try to be MGWR, they’d have to build a whole new steam locomotive, or try to disguise either 184 or 186 as a J18; although, the thought of a J26 replica is sounding better by the second…

There simply isn't the same level of interest here vs the uk to even consider a new build just to run up and down a few miles of line.

The bus must have been red rotten by now. Hopefully it went to a better home if there was any chance of restoration.

On 29/10/2022 at 12:41 AM, jhb171achill said:

I think the loco is the one which went to Maam Cross; I could be wrong, but if so, it’s about as MGWR as the starship “enterprise’

I don't think the intention was ever a faithful recreation of a pre-War Maam X, just as Downpatrick is not a BCDR only reserve. We should be thankful SOMETHING positive is happening there, given the 'problematic' history of preservation here.

The loco is in Inchicore en route to Maam X, as is the Bulleid open. The latter has been refloored and painted by now.

The 6 wheeler is on a private site not far away from the Halfway.

Boyd refers to the tram engine livery as simply "green" in the book, with no mention of shade or lining.

They would have been fine on a level-ish street tramway as near identical designs worked successfully elsewhere, but the course of the S&SLR was more like a roller coaster. 

On 18/11/2022 at 12:38 PM, jhb171achill said:

Very good thinking.

Sourcing suitable short wheelbase bogies shouldn’t be a problem - with the double footboards hiding them, the “two-foot rule” may be liberally applied.

Many of the CBSCR “shorties” Mayner mentions were culled in early CIE days, but sat about for years in that museum graveyard that was Albert Quay. They were replaced by (I think five) ancient GSWR bogies of 35-40ft long, for excursions on the T & C. These feature in many pics at Courtmacsherry, even behind “C” class diesels, or double-headed 90 + 100.

These yokes, being ex-GSWR, are even MORE suitable for the Hattons stock, as the GSWR is by a very long way the closest design to them!

Latterly, with Cork’s inevitable sense of independence (!), they were in a non-standard livery - all-over DARK green, with no lining or snails, just a number. This seems to have been a Republic of Glanmire application to secondary stock, boy, as some ex-CBSC stock was similarly treated, boy.

Even in GSR days, Cark did not stick to the playbook.

Cork & Macroom stock, simply lettered 'GS' and not a coat of arms to be seen. Or lining.

If it's not in the Boyd book, I doubt you'll get a definitive answer, short of deep digging in the IRRS library, and even then that info may not have survived. I have the book and can check but like other similar books I say just a colour mentioned in passing.

Most loco greens of that period were darkish, tending towards olive green. A default green that the makers slapped on rather than railway officials going through colour cards for their preferred shade.

9 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Although interestingly Berehaven did have something going for it. In 1898 the Admiralty upped the ante on the fortifications on Bere Island, which did become a significant military asset. A rail connection to Castletownbere could have proved useful perhaps in WW1, when the western naval bases were at full blast. But I suspect the 30s would have seen closure. On a related note, I wonder how the Berehaven, Swilly and Cobh treaty ports were supplied until 1938 and the final British withdrawal. The garrison troops may have been moved by sea, or possibly travelled by train in mufti. Some of the bulk stores may well have arrived by train, especially for the Cobh area. For those unaware of this little byway of Irish history, three UK garrisons were permitted to exist in the south between 1922 to 38 manning British naval bases. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Ports_(Ireland)

 

I'd imagine much of the stores and matereil for these bases would have come by sea even for security reasons alone. Perishable things such as food I could see being sourced locally and transported by train and ferried across to Hawlbowline. Laundry, unless they had a facility on site, could well be shuttled over and back between the base and laundries in the city.

On 15/12/2022 at 5:56 PM, Blaine said:

And the one that a lot of prominent people involved in this scene are banned from for some reason.

I'm heartbroken

Thoughts and prayers.

I've never seen a pic of a Murphy Bros open actually in use, just a builder's photo.

I imagine they had a short Murphys branded life, probably sold to the GSR or CIE to become yet another anonymous looking grey, filth covered wagon.

7 hours ago, Mayner said:

Better still fit the loco with a number plate and its is basically correct for a loco running in GSR condition (apart from the narrower running plate/position of the cylinders and motion).

The Inchacore smokebox door with hand wheel appears to be a late Emergency/CIE modification.

 

I assume the original doors got burnt out and they just used standard Inchicore doors rather than trying to source or replicate the old ones?

I have seen something similar before and was told it was attached to a horse drawn vehicle belonging to one of the landed gentry. A sort of forerunner of a vehicle registration plate.

21 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Looks real, all right. Yes, a rarity among "genuine" forgeries..........

 

Like an ebay listing I saw once "faithful reproduction of an authentic item".

It's almost a novelty for an 'antique' auction to offer something that IS antique.

46 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Various types of central buffer are in use all over the world, and are actually in the majority. On narrow gauges - including NZ’s “Cape” gauge, plus the Irish narrow gauge, they g FG institute the vast, vast majority; 100% of Irish narrow gauge lines had central “chopper” couplings as above.

The loco shown was one of a pair, the second-strongest narrow gauge locos in Ireland.

The three Cork ng lines, had to be different, and adopted a central link and pin coupler rather than the 'chopper' aka Norwegian coupler.

Had a similar issue (slipping axle gear) replaced FOC.

Might be a bit light-duty for such a weighty loco?