A few Dublin Diesels in 1976

[jhb171achill]

An "E" bumbles about Heuston. The only one I ever saw with such a big chimney. Or maybe it was just telling lies. "That crowd you saw playing in the Baggot Inn last night* whatyecallem U2, sure they'll never get anywhere"

 

 

( * and Guinness was 38p a pint..... )

 

A much newer cousin sets sail for Waterford. Original dark orange and unique version (and colouring) of snail.

 

 

Meanwhile in Inchicore:

 

 

Note, E405 has a non-standard font for its number. 409 was the same. Such variations were as good as unique - they were never on any other larger locos, and few if ANY other 401s.

 

 

Not to be outdone, North Wall had an "A", as usual, on the Taras. They are still painted blue, but for modelling purposes you can see how the BLUE paint looked when weathered by the stuff they carry. The "A" class would monopolise this traffic for another to years, until it became their last.

[Weshty]

As always, thanks for the pics JBH

[craven1508]

oh the lovely black and tan livery on 075 there, just lovely!

[DiveController]

Does the CIE roundel on E434 have an orange surround or is that an 'off-white'? E427 seem to be all white

[jhb171achill]

Definitely orange, Dive; this was without exception always the case - the older more "tan" orange, not the brighter shade. Some models display a roundel which is a bit TOO "orange". In that pic, the loco is withdrawn and its faded. In traffic, even weathered ones never lost the "tan".

 

434 is full tan, but suffers from a poor photo; the other actually is too. They never used off white except on the navy and cream / red and cream town/country buses. And ONE rail vehicle: the "steam-engine-lookalike" weedspray train had a bus (off-white) roundel on the cab sides.

 

Maybe if steam engines had survived, they'd have been black with off-White roundels!

 

I actually meant to comment on that but forgot!

Edited March 1, 2016 by jhb171achill

[Noel]

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oh the lovely black and tan livery on 075 there, just lovely!

 

Lovely ok, but not Black'n'Tan, 075 was in Super Train livery.

 

These baby GMs are in the even lovelier B&T livery

Photo Ciaran Cooney

[Weshty]

When did the black and tan livery disappear? c.75-76? I can only ever remember the Supertrain livery, and all the associated ads on TV.

 

As a 7 year old I thought the Mk2s were the dogs nuts compared to the laminates and cravens, not that I knew what they were called back then. More that the Lams. were the ones with the terrifying jangling and cranking corridor connections and the ventilators you could stick your heads out unsupervised on scout trips to Funderland....

[jhb171achill]

The black'n'tan was officially displaced by "supertrain" on all main line locos, though not the "E" or "G" class, in 1972. All Mk 2 AC coaches were new in that livery. All new carriages after that were the same. All other carriages (laminates, Bredins, Cravens, Park Royals) remained black'n'tan until the end of their lives, including the then ex-AEC push-pull railcars.

 

From about 1991, Cravens began to have an amended version of the old black'n'tan. Instead of a single white line above the windows, they had an orange line as well, and a white "tippex" line below window level. CIE Genny vans (BR type) ended their days in black'n'tan, albeit with the lower tippex line added, but NO upper orange line. The actual B'n'T livery lives on in traffic through DCDR's BR van 3189.

 

Some Park Royals ended up with tippex lines too, but only below window - no orange line above. Just the original white band there. So B'n'T to the end basically for virtually all pre-1972 / non-air-conditioned carriages.

 

A "point of order" here; if the modeller wants to accurately recreate anything before the early 90s, ensure your Cravens have no tippex or orange line above window level.....

 

The "Dutch" vans - most remained B'n'T until their life's end, but a few were rebuilt with added carbuncles on the ends to run with the oul tin BR scrappers, and these were repainted in "tippex". And thus was born one of the ugliest rail-borne contraptions that the world has ever known.

Edited March 2, 2016 by jhb171achill