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Jaysus, that shot would have been handy about 6 months ago!!! Got it figured out in the end tho. 

Love that Ballybeg layout too, stonking stuff. 

R

Can, fire me a pm if still interested. 

In other news... 

Colours used. 

Rock salt method used. 

Bit of downward action with wire wool before it dried. Onto powders, Mig Ammo are appallingly bad for railway stuff. It's powdered chalk dust, and doesn't stick. Back to AK Interactive. 

Should have left it at that, but was determined to get those powders to behave. 

It's sitting on makeshift 21mm track. I'm "idir eatherthu" about the finish, and I've probably given Wrenneire a hernia seeing a collectible in this way!! 😆 R. 

36! I fondly remember 121's hauling them from the junction to Limerick and always it being around 24. Every days a school day! 

Great to see you at Blackrock and have the craic, no less seeing your work back here with a bang. I think a lot of folk think you press a button behind yer ear and not only does an bottomless pit of time open up to do the work, but the experience and skill required to unf*ck some of these models (thinking shiteways resin) is slotted into a port on an SD card behind the other ear and off you robotically go. I think it explains why there are so few in this community doing this kind of "charity" work...  R. 

3 hours ago, RedRich said:

My own personal favorite will definitely be number 25195.

Same, love the bigger roundel and the font style (which isn't a font download either - every letter had to be drawn ) would loved the justification for 2 more in a pack, but shur....  R

You'll be needing a new smoke box door as JB says, but looks good. 

Spot on, Andrew. Makes discharging contents easier as pipework closer together, less shunting. R. 

There's a list as long as yourself to be done when making the GSV's, or any of the variants. My reply was for the benefit of the community, not just for this thread.

I believe the photo below is from RedRich, and should be of use. R. 

It's a bit myopic to replace the bogies and gangways, and yet leave the windows, battery boxes, v-irons, underframe gear all untouched, with big old chunky mullions on the windows in particular? There's some lovely step details too underneath the central door. Just if you're going to go to the time, sweat and expense, might be worth pushing the boat out, no?

R. 

1 hour ago, Garfield said:

over the coming days there's CAD to be completed and production slots to be booked for upcoming projects...

@Garfieldsound, nah really sound, thanks for the reminder. 

Very nice! I meant to sodding well buy  one, pure distracted... 😆 

1 hour ago, Jim said:

Starting to look well, got mine yesterday thinking of weathering to, what do you think about using actually cement dust on,  its very fine dust

I've tried it and it doesn't work so good as it dries to a grey colour, like, uhm, cement  The run off stuff on the prototypical wagons was that light foamy stuff, so if you were to mix it with joint filler or plaster 50/50, you're closer to the right finish. Mixed results with it, would prefer several coats of paint using a rock salt method, then powders to finish. R. 

Kinda weird all right, keep seeing parts that could have been improved and then I start getting annoyed, the load itself in particular, but shur learning curve and all that. I'm going to do something special with my own rake; custom loads, etched brake levers and the guide, maybe even swap out a hopper for a curved version. Rp-25/88 wheelsets too, for a more finescale look. Bugger all else can really be done... Dcc operating hopper doors?!?! 😆 

When the Chinese (great bunch of lads) cut the steel, for additional fidelity, and shillings, they can "Polish the tool".. snigger.. when the plastic is injected, it's near flat as glass and has an eggshell finish. 

As a wagon, trying to be impartial, it does take powders and washes exceptionally well as a model, and definitely benefits from a bit of distressing,especially to take that shine off. 

I've a pair of scrathbuilt E-classes on the bench too, both types, and hopefully a full build "splash" to go with, give yiz all a break from the IRM craic. 

R. 

Edit - I may have lied - there's the full range of MIG JIMENEZ weathering powders arriving at HQ and some models.... 😆.. I may get distracted.  

Just a quick snap of a weathered set of ballasts, chap wants DIV 42, despite being on a different running number. First project of the rebuilt and relocated "workbench"! 

Weathering powders and hand applied highlights only. 

R. 

Post 1987 / introduction of the Points Logo. 

A model of a model? Hmm, a weird one all right. The Schrodinger's Cat paradox of the railway modeller? I'd say it's a first....

What foliage? That's the loco side panel in green - proper green, not jhb green. The texture appears to look like foliage, but that was the advanced paint, with weathering,  that bullied used on these turf burning experimental locos... 

@Warbonnethave I said too much?  

I'm currently compiling a list of Irish Coaching Stock for use in any article I'm planning to right and while I've had no real issues with the Mk2d stock I've found a few discrepancies with certain Mk3 vehicles that I'm hoping someone can clear up for me.

 

For reference I'm looking for the state of the following vehicles in about 2004:

 

7107 - was this an Open Composite seating 36F/36S or an Open Standard seating 64?

 

7147 - was this an Open Standard seating 72, 66 or 64 plus a wheelchair space?

 

7157 - was this an Open First seating 64 or an Open Standard seating 64?

 

Additionally I'm curious as to how the two Executive Mk3s were used. I believe they were used in specials and so-called "Executive" trains but I assume they were also used in normal service trains? If so what services were they typically used in and as which type of vehicle, I've seen reference to 7162 being used as a dining car, is this when used in Executive trains or in lieu of a CityGold vehicle or something?

 

Finally I've got a vague idea of how the seats were generally formed but if someone could let me know if the following is broadly correct:

 

Dublin-Cork CityGold services: Typically Generator Van-CityGold-Buffet-5/6 Standards

 

Other Dublin-Cork: Typically Generator Van-Composite-Buffet-4/5 Standards

 

Dublin-Galway/Waterford/Tralee/some Limerick services: Typically Generator Van-Composite-Buffet-4/5 Standards

 

Dublin-Westport: Typically Generator Van-Standard-Buffet-3 Standards

 

The Wanderer himself might be able to assist with seat count etc.

I can only comment on the Cork-Dub services. All sets were formed of loco - genny - first class (a) - buffet - (b) Standard Open (c,d,e,f,g)

I think that CityGold was for the express services early in the morning and in the evening for business customers, and the rest of the days service was just a "First Class" instead, a little red 1 on a gold coin logo on the doors. Executive coaches were for hire, motivational speaking, company outings, that kind of fare. I never saw one in service, and photos of them running on the network are rare as hen's teeth.

R

Just a further update on the SDMRC show over the Halloween weekend, there will be a vintage shuttle bus service between Blackrock College and the Dun Laoghaire Harbour Rally over the weekend starting at 13.00 hrs from Dun Laoghaire to outside Blackrock College on the Rock Road, the service will be 13.30 hrs from Blackrock to Dun Laoghaire. This is for Saturday and Sunday; Monday to be confirmed.

 

Thanks to our friends at the Dun Laoghaire Harbour Rally for providing the service for what should be a great weekend.

 

Thanks

 

Paul R.

But what's the skinny on the catering facilities for the troops? Egg sangwidge and a flask of potato and onion soup in the rucksack, give it that "Warley" hummm....?

Funny thing is that those two photos were heavily referenced throughout the process, along with another 217 more....Every photo on this site is valuable for this craic, and we don't forget those that post them either.

You'll note that the two weld seams between the main cylinder and the "boobs" at either end have weathered heavily and are most prominent on wagons, whilst the quartering weld seams appear to disappear. Manufacturing means that the bubble is composed of several parts and there's a natural joint where that weathering takes place. Happy accident I reckon.

Looking forward to get my hands on a set shortly, along with the full range of MIG weathering powders, to see if I can distress one of these ladies to match a scaled reality. I get the feeling I might be the only one brave enough (initially) to chuck crap at pristine models, but it's all for a good cause

R

yeah, 5'7" ish isn't really enough to do omagh justice in 4mm.

Can you post an ordance survey map or similar that can be scaled from, see how big it really is?

Anyway, question I asked is do you want to play trains or shunt wagons on a scale diorama?

R.

This amazing photo shows you, from 2012, what an "Irish Cement" branded wagon looks like....She was the last to be held at the sidings in Limerick, after all her sisters had been scrapped months previous, before she mysteriously "disappeared"...

We've taken the dirt off her, btw

They are either 9'6" high cubes (much later) or 8'6" as a standard TEU - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit - but not 6 foot!

It boils down to this Tony - if you want prototype fidelity and slow speed shunting 4mm, even 7mm is where you need to be at. Plenty stock available, all sorts of track permutations abound, and relatively easy to scratchbuild buildings in 4mm.

But, if you want to replicate something that means so much and just "play trains" with a squinted eye, as repainted graham farish lookalikes spin around, then N gauge might be the way to go.

Answer that conundrum first, then worry about finessing shapeways toothpaste prints, P4 back-to-back gauges, or any of the more quarrelsome issues of gauge/scale. Figure out what you want out of this on a wet saturday evening, with a beverage of choice when it's all done and dusted - then proceed.

"Lay track in haste, repent at leisure"

R.

Will the wee step ladder on the bogie sideframe be available too :P

Only windin' ya up, they look "is maith sin" or "smashin'", love to see this level of fidelity with Irish stuff, EMC abu!

R.