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richie heres a high res photo that gives the relative views of BH and FB. ( though I cant be sure this isnt relatively recent FB track ( this should handle a lot of zoom) [ATTACH=CONFIG]26855[/ATTACH][

No not really , to be honest its what I can get in model form that will dictate , PECO do a code 65 FB in nickel silver , i.e 65 thou ( inches ) high which many modellers in the UK use as 00 gauge " conductor rail ". This I think is the closest that I can get to the lighter rail Do you or anyone know the typical MGWR weight of FB rail compared to bullhead , MGWR I believe had both heavy and light , the ballinrobe branch , like the loughrea branch was actually laid with spiked rail, ala US . Various pictures in the Odea collection show the siding in claremorris built with both spiked and these flat chairs , infact anything goes it seems I think Mayner , knows a bit about this I was thinking of having an etch done for these plates above, but again , I dont know if CIE was copying an older design or whether this is in fact a relatively new "chair ". The picture above is from Wellington Bridge, but the same chairs were until recently found in the roads to the turntable in claremorris

Has anyone successfully modelled this type off light weight flat bottom track . Code 65 rail maybe or any ideas. Also unlike in the US where this was spiked directly onto the rail, I beleive in ireland it was laid in a form of " chair" , as in But some close examination of Odea collection , shows that seeming early flat bottom seemed to be secured by a chair screw/bolt on either side , with either a very small "pad" or no pad at all. Its has been stated here before that the main line of the MGWR was flat bottom till the mid seventies, but there is ample evidence from 1960 around claremoris that the track was all bullhead, this of course could have been as a result of the major modifications to the station in the 40s

thank you , The common crossing is actually soldered onto 0,6mm copper shim and the chairs around it are therefore non functional. Elsewhere the chairs are fully functional and hold the rail as per the prototype. The copperclad " magic" moving sleeper is only temporary as I have the ambis stretcher brackets, but I have to make the required stretcher bars. painting etc to match the new PECO bullhead is next of course Ballinrobe branch was laid with light weight flatbotom rail, but with modellers license , Im proposing that the branch didnt close in 59 and was relaid with BH to facilitate diesels !!!!

Track production has begun for Claremorris ( actually I'm doing the smaller Ballinrobe branch first ) And the finished article This is to 00-SF standards 1mn flangeway Gap and 16.2 track gauge flared back to 16.5mm.

Have you to still fabricate the W-irons. Are you gong to make them also from brass. I like your axle carriers

On a serious note , how cone we didn't have a bulk milk bsiness. It's was present at one time in the uk

Noel , is the defite go to guy for all aspects of DCC sound, the man knowledge is brill.

well doh !, oh well, in my only the diddle-i-a music distracted me

at around 3.52 in this video you see a fleeting shot of what look like side mounted milk tank wagons, never seen these before, These were on the middleton line 1975. Anyone any pictures or seen them in real life , make an interesting model.

very nice

at the end of this document is the modern 5'3" IE structure gauge http://www.irishrail.ie/media/ie_2015_network_statement_m.pdf however since you are modelling in 00 gauge ( I presume ). This might be also relevant , when companied with the IE structure gauge http://www.elginmodelrailwayclub.co.uk/2010/articles/advice/standard-railway-modelling-dimmensions.html ( bearing mind that Irish stock was wider ) regards

what you are looking for is the structure gauge diagram for 5'3" , or even an 00 one , I think one was posted here some time ago

IPA widely available from electronic parts supplies , RS , Farnell etc ( farnell have no delivery charges ) . I have loads so if you want a small amount , Il bring some to you next time we meet - great video

The best approach is to tin both the wire and the rail. Then merely bring the wire to the rail and touch the iron to the two. The function of the iron is to bring heat to the joint and not solder. with flat bottom , you can also drill the under side with a 0.7mm drill and placed the wire in that and solder, make an invisible connection. I use etched droppers ( Platine models ) available from the scalefour society. Many ways to achieve the same thing the key to good soldering is that you bring the heat first and then apply the solder to the heated joint

brass masters in the west midlands do a brass fret that is capable of being used as functional rodding , http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/track_details.htm Model signal Engineering also do some components , that can be used in a functional system . MSE http://www.modelsignals.com/mse_home.htm and heres an interesting article http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1131/entry-15021-stools-cranks-point-rodding/ and the CLAG site http://www.clag.org.uk/green09.html

Good man , pics as you try it ?

thanks yes actually I originally had the idea of a lattice of ply that fitted over the box structure. but its very wasteful of ply. at this point its way way stiffer then say ply and 2x1 etc , so I have little concern . glassing in those gussets would be awkward to say the least. The original idea is not new, its been discussed and built in serval forms by Scalefout members and discussed on their forum I will do a full sized baseboard module next The idea is also that the baseboard can be turned upside down, to act as a support structure for an open baseboard type system , in that case each box section has the rectangular ply " top" cut away , ( which is now the bottom ) to provide access I think the triangular gusset as per your picture is primarily used to provide strength to the side walls from buckling inwards or outwards. in my case the twist is in effect diagonal across the length of the baseboard module . so I think the gussets may be adding strength in an area that doesnt need it . The method to further stiffen such movement , which was discussed on the Scalefour forum was diagonal bracing , but Im trying to avoid those as it interferes quite significantly

where exactly ? .

I have just finished a test " plank " baseboard as a test run to constructing the mega project that is claremorris. These are 6mm European Birch , cut on a computerised table saw. with 120mm box section construction , 3" GRP tape and polyester resin bonded. The strengthening pieces were initially tacked together with hot melt adhesive The overhang is deliberate , as I intend to place all the servos motors for points and signals , DCC dropper common points and layout bus electronics ( MERG modules ) on the vertical side, with as little as possible underneath ) . The final baseboards will have 12mm ends to facilitate joining to others flatness is 0,2mm over the length , module is 1500 x 380mm, final baseboards will be 1500 x 800mm ( in places) , these larger units will have a double box section , ( each box section is approx 300x300mm).At present I dont see the need for diagonal supports , Im trying to avoid diagonals as they cause access issues Twist , measure by picking one long corner up , is about 20mm before the far side lifts, but in reality this isnt terribly relevant as the board is supported on trestles . The whole baseboard can be lifted and held by one hand . also Im doing some trials on sound deadening , this is 3mm nitrogen blown UV stabilised foam , ( from efoam.co.uk). I have an electret microphone hookedto a scope and so will be able make comparative measurements, I well test this against cork and direct to baseboards. The track shown is Exactoscale bullhead code 75 nickel silver, its this or the new PECO bullhead that Ill use

D connectors make a good interboard connector , especially if you envisage regular movement Double up on a few pins for high current track feeds I personally can't stand chocolate block connectors but that's just my hangup !!

I think we can safety say the exit will be hard , that will prove costly for railway modellers buying from outside the uk. Anyone whose seen the charges on importing from the USA ( leaving aside shipping ) will appreciate this I have occasionally bought from Germany , shipping is inevitably 3-4x over the uk. ( in fact a polish web site was much cheaper shipping to the uk and using parcel motel then shipping direct to Ireland ) Buying small value items therefore is not viable as any perusal of Amazon.de will testify in minutes. I see no upside , there won't even be any requirement for uk business to deduct vat ( or whatever it gets called ) on exports as this is a specific EU requirement and will not apply to the uk ( and many small uk traders are not vat registered in the first place as the threshold in the uk is at the top of the eu allowed scale whereas Ireland is at the lowest allowable Note the 150 euros applied to duty , not vat , vat deminimis levels are harmonised across the Eu at the 20 euro figure mentioned I fail to see any significant weakness in sterling , if anything the opposite is beginning to occur Oh well , I start building a jar of cents to pay the postie again !!

Remember , any uk retailer dispatching goods to a uk ( or Ni ) address will include any uk sales taxes ie their vat , on Brexit you will then pay Irish vat on top of uk sakes tax, whereas today you do not That in itself will ruin address pal and parcel motel. A buyer here will be subject to currency margins , double vat and a custom clearance charge U.K. Reseller can only deduct vat if the shipping address is outside the uk. Which in this case it's not. Furthermore the uk seller will have to declare the value or clearance can not be effected yet the uk seller will be under no obligation to do so as the shipment as far as he's concerned will it's a interval uk sale ( for parcel motel or address pal ) Nope that business model is dead ( as is Amazon .co .uk for Irish buyers ) Saying buying from Germany is all very well. There will be less value for EU websites to produce English versions as uk customers will face the same issues and we don't count abd in most cases especially for small inexpensive items , shipping from Germany to Ireland makes things very expensive Dark days ahead me thinks

This is not anything political , so lets not discuss it from that perspective I was down collecting a parcel from AddressPal ( and Post ) and thinking that all these " new" handy carriage systems that suit Internet purchasing will get wiped out ( if) Vat at point of entry gets reintroduced I remember when the postman used to come looking for the " VAT " when he delivered parcels etc , Surely we won't be going back to that ( in fact we cant as the postman won't accept money anymore ) It must be sobering for people like NightLine to watch, in effect, their business model for Parcel Motel blow up in their face 2019 will not be great for railway modellers here , given how much we rely on the UK for " Bits ", especially since Model shops are virtually extinct ??????

Brilliant , look forward to the videos