GSR 800

16 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

WTT/TT's?
Please explain

Cheers

Timetables unless I'm mistaken

Both have their merits, but that pic of the 141s, B145 leading starting a train from Kingsbridge in a Second Glance has kept me tipped to a slight GM bias.

Such shows what impressed upon me age 10 

1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said:

I have had 2 chipped JB, all the gubbins were split between the tender and loco, and a very small chip was used, savage amount of work for a new loco
It even stated that the warranty was void if the locos were chipped!

13 minutes ago, Mayner said:

I can understand OO Works not fitting PCB board/DCC sockets to their locos, it was a horrendous job fitting fitting a DCC socket to a MGWR 2-4-0.

Not really suitable for small batch manufacture, best left to Chinese massed produced plastic injection molded models with the economies of scale and a young mainly female workforce with nimble fingers and sharp eyesight.

Theres only really space in the loco for the motor and the tender body is a solid piece so (unless it was slung under the tender chassis?) somewhat akin to the Woolwich, though those locos have their own long set of issues!

Be interesting in seeing the DCC set up and how it was managed..

39 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

I got mine delivered to a relative in Britain, who accidentally brought it over to me.......

If i tried that i could well be waiting as long as Leslie did for the 70th! Invest the hundred or so saved and become fabulously wealthy while I wait 

At the end of the day its a rare type, one that I doubt will ever be produced again for a very long time, and is probably worth far more to someone if they happen to be building a layout of the west cork in the 30s.  If you're rolling in a few quid you might as well....

4 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

The seller appears to be OO Works themselves.

The item description says to go to their website for a discount, where the loco is advertised £10 cheaper than on eBay.

Indeed it is, probably having a hard time to shift them with the import charges lumped on

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

Yes, I got one locomotive a while back which resulted in the postman wanting an extra €126!

For some recent purchases I've been fine, no issues of import charges, but did get hit with an extra 80 with something large that was sent by courier.

12 minutes ago, Edo said:

In fairness 00Works are about the only gig in town for RTR Irish Steam these days.................they produce tiny runs of Irish Steam -the price asked is about the average for them......when you consider these factors - its alright

I've have 2 lovely J15s from 00works a couple of years back.............if her indoors knew what I had paid for them.............carnage.

Now if IRM decide to do  Irish Steam.........

Its better value than the 370 quid and rising asking price for 141/181s on ebay at the moment..........

 

I've a J15 myself, made the exception of the 250 mark I'm usually willing to go no further paying for RTR... but over 100 euro extra for post and import charges for 472..

Anyone rolling in money? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114804659568?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338722076&toolid=10001

Excellent stuff JM, looking forward to the 52 especially.

 One recommendation would be having prices in euro?

7 minutes ago, minister_for_hardship said:

Computer says no?

Works grand for me

22 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Going through Cyril Fry's colour slides, you could be forgiven for thinking that some CIE green vehicles were light greenish blue, and others almost black, as he seems to have used the cheapest and nastiest colour film - in marked contrast to his model making!

Similar situation with a picture of a Mogul in Second Glance

10 year old me was certain some woolwiches were going around in a light blue!

12 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Could be - further research needed on THAT one!

Like I mentioned before - COULD be the colour slide. There is absolutely no mention that I am aware of in IRRS journals of a 101 in the dark green, but even the IRRS Journal (the "paper of record"?) had the odd error or omission in it.

fairly certain that is the lighter green, having looked at a great deal of the CIE green locos I'm convinced there was some level of lack of uniformity, though a deal of it is down to the photos themselves, lighting, fading etc

42 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

I might add - while the “A” & “C” classes might or might not have the waist lining, I don’t think any B101s did.

1 minute ago, jhb171achill said:

Just to show the green…. I know I’ve posted before…..

 

Dark and post-1955 light

the latter pic does a good job of showing how hard the light green is to pin down, with the loco and coach barely in shot looking a great deal for vibrant than the other, which has been faded slightly.

Theres the scaling effect of it all for us at 00 gauge too..

55 minutes ago, Bumble_Bee said:

Roof held on by magnets, body held on by screws instead of dodgy clips that break after one removal... bliss! 

 

Body removal/servicing is one of the biggest reasons I hate diesel models because I always end up breaking them haha. This on the other hand, looks totally eejit proof! Thank you!  

 

Related to that, do the bogies come out for easy maintenance too?  

Also to echo the comments above, my mouse cursor has been hovering above the 'pre-order' button on a few more of these over the last few days but I'm staying strong! 

Can't remember what number I ordered already but it was one of the late day-glo versions. I am sorely tempted to get one of the early liveries too, either that gorgeous silver or the green... having two similar but not identical locos running on my heritage layout would be pretty cool...

 

..no..NO! I'm away to have a cold shower!  

I'll be taking my one in black and tan and throw my wallet as far away as possible where its safer..

Good to hear easy roof removal and no fear of breaking clips or the likes, even many steamers are such an arse to get the body off, setting a precedent for high quality in every aspect means rest assured even if the wallets are empty its money well spent.

17 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

I'm with ya. I ended up ordering four!

We need therapy.

35 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

I took a very different stand on that...

Ordering them WAS my therapy.

Never fight your therapy.

Aye retail therapy...

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

My grandfather (1879-1951) started building this (live steam) model in the 1910s. He never got it finished. Too busy working on boiler drawings in Inchicore Works!

I think it was intended to be a 60-class 4.4.0. I believe that at some stage he was working on improvements to these locos.

Sound familiar? How many of us never manage to get a model finished!

 

An outside cylindered version?

8 hours ago, BosKonay said:

It doesn't get much better than this..the attention to detail is just next level.

10 hours ago, Michael Nolan said:

Very Disappointed in todays announcement after such a long delay all  we are offered is a re-jig of the old models. Not good enough.

Ah here would you ever come off it, we might as well being seeing the start of a golden age in irish railway modelling, both with the lads here at IRM, the advancment of 3D printing and kits from the likes of JM, SSM, Provincial and many others. Of course theres a loco or coach or piece of rolling stock we'd all like to see announced at some stage, but so far we've been spoiled sideways with new releases, not to mention the A's within grasp, feck all to complain about, especially considering the limitations of the pandemic. 

Not good enough my arse.

32 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

Yes, the OHLE makes "photography" tricky, hence all these videos at stations. Just lovely to hear the Bulleid "chatter" as she went by. When Jarvis rebuilt them, the one thing I think he didn't touch was the brilliant Bulleid boiler - a pal of mine maintained that any fool could make a Bulleid steam!

Now, how much would it cost to regauge one? Noel, Rob and Ken would make one of these fly!

Well Bulleid was over here...Light Pacifics instead of Turf Burners?

The Rebuilt Bulleid Pacifics have been growing on me as of late, good few videos of them starting trains at Waterloo, slipping fiercely of course!

Great to see Clan Line at speed.

1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said:

This was the Wasp livery at 2638 Limerick Junction

 

2660 at Albert Quay 1960. Was this a rebuilt crash repair?

The latter was one of the unusual Bulleid built types, looked very box like

2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

What do you suggest instead?

170 is far from perfect, has the opposite problem but with a bit of surgery would do the job.

Maybe if you get the same shovel the Silverfox A's got a belt with, otherwise the nose is a long way off

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Ah, he's alright.

He has a nice voice for narration, and his videos are aimed at teens and pre-teens who are saving their pocket money each week for a new Hornby loco every few months...

Not exactly the same target group as MM and IRM!

Sure look, saves us all a few bob finding out which locos are useless.

What we need is a Niall Toibin type doing model Irish loco reviews, going off on occasional tangents telling stories with an aul joke at the end...what was that one about Carrauntoohil and the American..

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

In the world of 7mm small suppliers, that is a warp speed change! It’s good to see Roger taking steps in this direction - he’s a great friend to Irish modelling. 

Probably the largest boost to Irish 7mm modelling I've seen in my (short!) time, makes it an order of magnitude more accessible.

Some of you may be aware of Graeme King, provides LNER resin body kits, modifications and details.

Well documented examples of what can be achieved here 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/10588-thompson-a11-from-a-gresley-a1/

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2443

The main question for anyone who would even consider a similar job for the irish market would be..is there a market?

Lots of irish locos with common boilers, smokeboxes etc, especially when it comes to the GSR/CIE era and 'Inchicorisation' 

Next question is of course, donors, and I think this is the big stick. Lack of anything irish outside the Woolwiches and NCC types means both the whole niche hinges on conversions from British types, doable, but not a perfect science. Worth the money if some of the more common Irish steamers come around in RTR in the next decade or two? To what extent are people willing to pay, not only for a loco that could cost 100-150 euro plus the resin body or mod kit on top? If it gets into the price range of brass kits sounds increasingly like a waste of money for something that still won't be 'perfect'. 

Conversion kits for the Woolwiches could be a start, pretty much just replacing out the smokebox for an inchicore one? Flip side, N class isn't a great model, especially if you're unlucky enough to come across one with dreaded mazac rot...

I do think even looking ahead 20 years, there will be a lot of vaguer irish steamers that will be unlikely to ever get an RTR run.

Food for thought rather than anything serious.