Colin R

The Irish starter pack good thinking Spudfan  

37 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

I’ve heard rumblings of what it could be from reliable sources. If what they say is true I’ll be buying a good few of em

So when did you win the euro lottery if they are steam locos then 

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

About thirty across all the classes - U, S, V and VS  

This could be expensive then..... wait... I see my bankmanger has just told me I need to file for bankruptcy if I want every one   

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

Would be a shame if IRM didn’t exploit their livery wizardry to the full on any new steam class - a range of grey J15s is hardly a challenge for them… a nice blue 4-4-0 with a portion of sale going into 171’s overhaul appeal could be timely with lots of collector appeal …

So just how many blue 4-4-0 can you have?

I was trying not to speculate on what it could be, but as hard as it is not to do so I would guess it is something which is on the network today, or may be the original DART sets? As much as I would love a steam loco I can't see that happening, could be the C class locos to follow on from the A's

28 minutes ago, Edo said:

I wonder what stage the GS&WR footbridge is at?

I had forgotten about that one

Also have a look here https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1gvs4usgmrgqei/Irish Lines Drawings Index (J.P.James%2C 1992).pdf

And I should also not forget our friend at Alphagraphix kits   https://www.alphagraphixkits.co.uk/

Sadly my scanner is not working but if anyone else can send you a copy of an article by David Walker from the Railway Modeller dated November 1985 it is four pages of a 7mm scale layout called Killaney so that has some details that might prove interesting.

It might also be worth contacting the new irish lines magazine website https://newirishlines.org/ or the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/NewIrishLines/followers they may also be able to put you in contact with other modellers like yourself.

Colin  

6 hours ago, leslie10646 said:

I've been considering doing a kit of a GS(W)R or GNR horsebox for ages.

Is there any interest in one? I have drawings and lots of photos.

 

 

I am not sure how many you would need to break even but I would be interested  

I would think that there must have been a rule of thumb to this over time, such as lets imagine a morning train from say Cork to Dublin needs to have 50 1st class sets, 100 2nd class and 250 + 3rd class seats these numbers will have been known for years previously on the same day before by the booking clerk at Cork, this information would find its way to the operations department who would then instruction the staff to put together the train from what current stock there was in the carriage yard at Cork. I suspect that each coach would have been known for how many seats it had so it might be possible that they only needed six carriages to start with. But allowing for intermediate stations and passengers they may have added an extra two coaches on the end. Again it would have been more than possible for a train set that just arrives at Cork to be broken up and reformed for another service later in the day.   

I wonder, would they have also used cattle wagons if there were a lot of horses to be moved at the same time?

Colin

Hi Guys not one to let anyone down but as I don't follow horse racing, I don't have a clue as to just how important the movement of the horse around the Irish railway system really was, so does anyone want to start with your own observations on this subject? 

Thanks JHB for some reason I always get those two railways mixed up the Belfast & Northern Counties and Belfast & Co Down, I won't even get into  the issue of horse boxes as I am sure that will be another thread that should be started elsewhere.   

Colin

On 20/1/2023 at 8:31 AM, jhb171achill said:

It does - and if you add in the period 1969-63, you’ve steam locos running alongside many types of diesels - A, B101, B121, B141 (brand new), plus - of course - AEC railcars on most main line services - like ICRs today.

As for wagons, barely two alike in any train….

Plus, concurrently, in 1963, six different carriage liveries, three (filthy) steam loco liveries, and four for diesels….

Now, if THAT isn’t variety, I don’t know what is!

I think that is around the period which I hope to model, but with a bit of modeller licence to boot. While we are on the subject of coaches (could we say on horse racing days) would it have been possible to have run various specials from different railways, so could something from Belfast come south such as an NCC or GNRi special or even something more exotic from the B&NCR even? 

I know that rule one will apply to the layout but sometimes its nice just to have a prototype excuse for running something.

Colin   

That's OK then might have a chance to move to a new location subject to things happening the way we want them to, which means I will have the time to save up to buy some of the next batch. will need more green and silver livery versions I think.

In that case does anyone have the knowledge of when each loco went from as delivered Silver to Green and then to Black and Tan V1? I would be looking at nothing later than say 1966 thanks in advance.

Colin 

Given that this batch of A's has sold very well, dare I wonder if a second batch might happen at some point in the future but with different numbers and colour schemes?

Colin  

44 minutes ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

I presume it's Tuam they mean? 

yes I think that were they mean

He is saying that he acquired the collection, which would make sense as I have seen some of them before.   

Just looked in the TV mag that came with the snooze paper, it is supposed to be on this coming Monday at 8pm channel 27. This is after two episodes from the late Fred (do you like that) Dibnah at 7pm and is followed by The Architecture The Railways Built with Tim Dunn.

The trouble is I am hooked into an America TV show called the Blacklist on freeview channel 21 or 5 USA after 9.00pm can be a bit gorey.     

1 hour ago, Leyny said:

I have a cunning plan. I managed to pick up one of the last 6-wheelers from their current British Genesis range (in fact the very last composite lav in LNER pre-war brown). It looks to be identical to what the Irish ones will be (apart from the livery obviously), so that'll soon tell me where I stand. My intention is to unbox it, test it and promptly rebox and sell it. I'd never look to fleece another modeller (scalping, especially in a community as small and interdependent as the modelling scene, goes against all my principles) but as that range is now sold out, I should have no problem covering my costs. I'll let the good folks here know how I get on. 

 I am sure that you will sell it for what you got on e Bay

You could try anyone of the following:-

https://yorkmodelrail.com/ 

http://www.lcut.co.uk/index.php?page=pages/products&title=4mm scale 

https://www.inthegreenwoodlaser.co.uk/st002-small-station-building-oo-gauge-laser-cut-kit 

https://www.graingeandhodder.co.uk/ 

If they are just one off's some of them may do them for you, where as others may do them at cost or could come to a deal with you to add them to there own range.

Colin Rainsbury   

3 hours ago, airfixfan said:

The Diamond 

You are correct Derry I think it is, it photos like that which I try to collect which I can base some of the background on.

Could it also include anyone who produces Irish theme building kits sure we have a few such as Alphagraphix, but what I find frustrating is that the Irish shop front or an Irish building look which does not alway transfer from a UK based building model. 

This is a photo from Derry I found on the Interwebby has lots of modelling characteristics  

I just found these photos of some of my mock ups this below is the start of the Ramsey loco shed and works

This one below is based on photos and some details I have of the Ramsey Station building

The one above is a freelance version of a Cavan and Leitrim Station building just to get the size

The one below is the other side of the mock up