Another dumb question

[Gavin Hamilton]

A question for those knowledgable about coaches - I've seen b&w photographs of the Ballymena & Larne 'boat train' coaches as running on the Ballycastle line with the corridor 'blanks' lettered LMS NC but I don't know what colour it was, I wonder if it may have been gold to match the lettering in the livery?

Regards

Gavin

[Galteemore]

These were working items, Gavin, which could get chucked around a bit, rather than varnished coach work. I’d suspect they were lettered in cream or white 

Edited May 20, 2021 by Galteemore

[jhb171achill]

1 hour ago, Gavin Hamilton said:

A question for those knowledgable about coaches - I've seen b&w photographs of the Ballymena & Larne 'boat train' coaches as running on the Ballycastle line with the corridor 'blanks' lettered LMS NC but I don't know what colour it was, I wonder if it may have been gold to match the lettering in the livery?

Regards

Gavin

At the bottom of this image, from Headhunters Railway Museum in Enniskillen, you see actual NCC lettering on actual NCC maroon paint. So that's the carriage colour, and that's the lettering style and colour. Often, the gold got faded to a wishy-washy creamy colour, and at the same time the shading was worn off.

The NCC tended not to put lining on much secondary stock, narrow gauge included, and often no LMS crest either. Certainly in later years, the Ballycastle stock had neither lining nor crests.

The above collection is worth looking at - many of the board backgrounds are in actual railway company paint, including the Dublin & Blessington; almost without doubt the only surviving example of their colour of green. Ditto the BCDR, UTA, Clogher Valley and T & DR (the huge garter on the left above the Donegal one).

Gavin, regarding the lettering of the gangway COVERS, this looks to me as if it was handpainted on; thus pale yellow.

[airfixfan]

Would have been pre WW2 in crimson livery

 Have a photo somewhere of one of them at Ballycastle about 1937 in good condition.

[jhb171achill]

23 minutes ago, airfixfan said:

Would have been pre WW2 in crimson livery

 Have a photo somewhere of one of them at Ballycastle about 1937 in good condition.

Only a few years old then, and possibly with lining too, as I think they were fully lined on delivery. Not later.

[airfixfan]

17 hours ago, Gavin Hamilton said:

A question for thos knowledgable about coaches - I've seen b&w photographs of the Ballymena & Larne 'boat train' coaches as running on the Ballycastle line with the corridor 'blanks' lettered LMS NC but I don't know what colour it was, I wonder if it may have been gold to match the lettering in the liv

13 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Only a few years old then, and possibly with lining too, as I think they were fully lined on delivery. Not later.

 

photo from 1936 attached but will not led me add the photo!

Edited May 21, 2021 by airfixfan

[jhb171achill]

There ya go, Jim!

[airfixfan]

9 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

There ya go, Jim!

Thanks John was out on a Disused Stations survey today. Can we chat tomorrow?