Mayner Posted November 22 Posted November 22 (edited) After considering a number of options including transferring 3D printing to Ireland or the UK, I have decided to continue with our current Chinese supplier both for the high print quality and competitive pricing. I am accepting enquiries/ expressions of interest in a similar manner to our our etched kits by PM on this newsgroup or info@jmdesignmr.co.nz. Wagons are printed to order and will proceed to production when I receive enquiries/expressions of interest for a minimum of 20 wagons. I will issue a Paypal invoice for payment when I reach the minimum order quantity for delivery March-May 2025, I will confirm shipping cost at invoice stage. Wagon kits will be supplied with wheels, couplers and decals, but without ballast weights, wrapped in bubble wrap in cardboard packaging. Wagons are supplied with Markits 3H disc wheels on 28mm pin point axles and suitable for 21mm gauge use to OO or EM running clearances, brake shoes are aligned for 21mm gauge. GSR/CIE "Standard Irish" 12T Open Wagon. $44.00nz approx. €26.50 approx. £23.00 Introduced during WW1, built by GSWR/GSR & CIE up to the 1956 introduction of the "Corrugated" open wagons. Photo is of one of our original prints wagon label print detail is sharper and door springs deepend to minimise risk of breakage. Covered Wagons JM Design have produced four different versions of the Covered Wagons or "H Vans" (Hard Topped) used introduced by CIE between the Mid 1940s and early 1950s All Van kits are priced at $49.00nz approx. €29.40 approx. £25.48ntroduced 1917 GSWR/GSR/CIE 15417-16812 Series Covered Wagon Planked Introduced by GSWR during WW1 , GSR and CIE continued to produce these wagons into the 1949s GSWR/GSR/CIE 15417-16812 Series Covered Wagon Sheeted Aluminium sheeted body with planked doors. GSR/CIE built/rebuilt covered wagons with aluminium sheeting over timber planking possibly to improve durability. Photo is of a model with the chassis produced by a different process to our current production. CIE 17012-17221 Series Covered Wagon introduced 1946 CIEs first design of H van basically an updated version of the GSWR 1915 design with aluminium sheeted body and doors on timber planking on 10' Wb underframe. CIE 1712-17221 Series Covered Wagon Known as "LMA Wagons" this small batch (10) + 16812 the bodywork of these wagons was assembled in light alloy sheeting completed with corrugated ends. GSR Bulk Grain Wagon. Introduced 1930s the GSR built 10 wagons for its own use and 8 for Ranks Ireland. All Bulk Grain Wagon kits are priced at $55.00nz approx. €33.00 approx. £28.60 A separate decal sheet is available for the grain wagons in GSR/CIE service covering the main livery variations. I can supply a Ranks Ireland decal sheet to order but can be challenging to apply and would recommend ordering additional decal sets as spares. Edited November 22 by Mayner 9 1 Quote
Mayner Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago I won't be proceeding with the Wagon Kits at this stage as I did not receive sufficient enquiries to proceed to production. One potential customer commented that the owner of a British Outline manufacturer (that has produced high quality kits in 4mm since 1972) said that 'people say they will wait until it comes out RTR" than assemble a kit. John 1 1 Quote
Mol_PMB Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I'm happy that I was able to purchase a couple of those that you had in stock. I do tend to agree with the general trend you mention though - the quality of RTR is now too good for kits to flourish even in quite niche markets. Even a decade ago, it was fairly straightforward to build a kit into a more accurate and better-detailed model than the RTR equivalent. Not any more. I'm looking forward to building your kits as I enjoy the construction process, making something my own. Also I'm not expecting the particular prototypes I've bought to emerge in RTR in the near future, but who knows what IRM will conjure up next? Mol 1 Quote
Horsetan Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Mayner said: .... the owner of a British Outline manufacturer (that has produced high quality kits in 4mm since 1972) said that 'people say they will wait until it comes out RTR" than assemble a kit. That sounds like Peco, which owns the Parkside kit range Quote
Mayner Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 11 hours ago, Horsetan said: That sounds like Peco, which owns the Parkside kit range I don't want to name the particular business as I did not speak to the owner. Its not Peco more of a 'cottage industry' operator like myself who mainly produces etched loco and rolling stock kits. Interestingly 25-30 years ago when I was modelling British outline, I though the Parkside BR Iron Ore tippler was a finely detailed 'state of the art' model superior to what was available in contemporary RTR. The Ply sided Parkside van was my go-to for modelling a CIE H Van (21mm gauge), new plasticard ends, etched or pressed corner strappings and modified brake gear. 1 Quote
Mike 84C Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago My son is exactly the wait for it to be produced rtr rather than build a kit person. When I look at the stock on his layout I think " HOW MUCH"? Don't plead poverty to me!! 1 Quote
Mayner Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mike 84C said: My son is exactly the wait for it to be produced rtr rather than build a kit person. When I look at the stock on his layout I think " HOW MUCH"? Don't plead poverty to me!! Different horses for different courses I get my enjoyment out of creating/doing rather than possessing things. Although I enjoy playing trains (protypical operation) I tend to loose interest in a modle one I complete it or (worse still) the kick wears off soon after I buy a RTR model. At the end of the day my 3D printed wagons were a very quick way of adding a lot of wagons to my collection that would have taken me years to scratchbuild or assemble from conventional kits, I have a stash of over 20 of Leslies wagons awaiting to be assembled for the past 4-5 years that arrived as part of a barter deal for a rtr MGWR 2-4-0. 1 Quote
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