Possible NCC wagon

[Mike 84C]

Cambrian models have just announced a new C115 LSWR 4whl van kit. looks like a candidate for a large NCC van.? At £7.70 not so expensive. I shall try and get one at Peterborough this Sunday.

[Dunluce Castle]

Can't really tell from the pics on their website but by all means, post pictures of it once you get one.

[Glenderg]

I can't figure out what it is from the website - are they talking about an NCC Brown Van?

[Kirley]

I can't figure out what it is from the website - are they talking about an NCC Brown Van?

 

Brown Vans were 24' long with a wheelbase of either 14' or 15'.

 

The Cambrian kit looks shorter.

[Glenderg]

NCC Brown Van

 

- Wheelbase is 14'11"

 

- Length over body is 24'3"

 

- Buffers are 17½" long (but vary)

 

(Source: I measured it )

[Kirley]

Don't forget there were those built in Dunmurry and then Harland & Wolff. Different wheelbases.

[Glenderg]

Ah! Every day's a school day. Was there any pattern for which was which?

[Kirley]

Was there any pattern for which was which?

 

Both versions according to the drawings had an outside length of 24' 1" and were 27' 8" over the buffers.

The main difference was the 14'wb was a 10T van whereas the 15' was 11T.

 

No's 1825 - 1835 had their underframes built by H & W and the bodies by the UTA at Dunmurry.

No's 1886 - 1899 were all built at H & W.

 

No's 1896 - 1899 were fitted with Westinghouse Air Brakes to run with the MED & MPD's.

 

Perhaps to much information...?

[Glenderg]

Both versions according to the drawings had an outside length of 24' 1" and were 27' 8" over the buffers.

The main difference was the 14'wb was a 10T van whereas the 15' was 11T.

 

No's 1825 - 1835 had their underframes built by H & W and the bodies by the UTA at Dunmurry.

No's 1886 - 1899 were all built at H & W.

 

No's 1896 - 1899 were fitted with Westinghouse Air Brakes to run with the MED & MPD's.

 

Perhaps to much information...?

 

Perfect, but at slight odds with my measurements! Does a kit/RTR not exist yet of this iconic vehicle?

[Kirley]

Does a kit/RTR not exist yet of this iconic vehicle?

 

Not as yet, scratch build is the only way at the moment.

 

[Glenderg]

Impressive rake Kieran, very impressive. That can't have been an easy gig. I'd have thought there would be suitable demand for a kit, but hey ho.

[Mayner]

Derby either built or re-gauged a number of Midland Railway vans to replace NCC stock destroyed as a result of air raids on Belfast. Slaters did a kit of a standard Midland van, though the vans sent to the NCC had slightly different diagonal bracing https://slatersplastikard.com/linePage.php?code=G3W024