Robert Shrives

DJD

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/eurlammonia/h1fbb377f#he70e226d

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/eurlammonia/h1fbb377f#he70e226c

gives a link to two pics the UK version. 

Yonks ago LIma did a tanker but was , I guess, an HO model - but given how big the tank is it might be ok. 

http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/wp-content/uploads/Journal-6-16-Bashing-Chemical-Wagons.pdf

Is a link to Grahames excellent bashing and the wagon gets a conversion from a Farish  TEA wagon which Bachmann do in 00 eg. https://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/mt/bachmann-wagons/bachmann-tank-wagons/bachmann-38-110-tea. 

That a quick search , hope it helps.

Robert 

I should add , cheekily of course ! That having got 6 into gloss white and hoping to use MIR transfers after some green on solebars  on some MIR resin tanks - you need a Murphy 201 to pull as very heavy. I would expect the good gents in the IRM palace to be sorting the packaging designs this week ! ....

Robert  

Mine arrived in the Badlands of Brum today and in box suitable for 6 with a single piece of paper wrapped around the black box inside. I did on seeing box wonder if it was a "lottery" win !!    

Posting box off for recycling and happy with contents in every way , agree with George re care in removing dense foam shell and handrails but looks good on test track. 

Robert     

Well my 134 in Grey arrived today and as echoed by many I say thanks to Mr. Murphy for all work and tribulations in getting loco to market. A lovely model and a great runner and sensible packaging. 

Looking forward to the Tippexed 121  arrivals

Robert  

Hi Thanks to all who have been in contact .  Ian at MIR also helped thanks 

Robert  

13 hours ago, brianmcs said:

Does it use a 42 ft flat wagon ?

Sadly not it is a 47 foot one normally 30219,  And is painted black rather than Bauxite.  A full set of transfers from SSM as above are a treat ! 

Robert  

Patrick,

I hope you have now found peace !  Loading bank looks the part .

I have seen one or two layouts which were suggestive of a just past rainfall with puddles  and wet roofed buildings.  But you can enjoy the passing phase as it dries out . 

As everybody adds great layout that inspires .

Robert   

7 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

I think that the downside to the van is that there'd only be one per rake, whereas with the other coaches, you could have four, six, eight or whatever per rake, yet the manufacturer would only need two different moulds to shift those eight coaches.

So with a van, one sale per rake per mould, and with the coaches, four sales per rake per mould.

Not knocking the vans in any way, i understand the importance of them, just looking at it from a practical point of view.

A van might end up costing €150 whereas the coaches might only cost €60. All guess-work, yes, but probably close enough to the mark.

Summarises the IRM issue with the GSV weed spray coach- essential to the model scene  but un economic for the business model. Unless the Angel investor with no interest in returns happy to give over E100K we can wish all we like for rtr but a kit or a kit commission is where you will need to visit- even a 3D print will not be that much different on the rails for a price.. 

Robert      

Patrick - That is it perfection as you desire , it looks just like my depot at Minffordd on the Ffestiniog Railway and a bit less like an airport runway !  Perhaps a small pad on the Beet loading bank to hint at where progress in going will suffice. The angle of many phots of beet banks hint but give no details of surface and weeds - I imagine ( await to be told better) that weeds ran amok but a winter of tractors and trailers ground a clear way for a few months - so perhaps a bigger collection at the bufferstop end trailing to nearly clear at road access point  . Of course some very plant unfriendly weed killer might have been used a bigger sites.

If I may suggest a tree or similar to help nature cover up how the sky is fixed above the lorry trailer - or it might be a ufo... who knows but I guess we have all had an errant screw head ! 

Always great work and thanks for showing.  Rome not built in a day and always changeable so is Glen More  but I think you are as good to go with the yard. . I do not think anybody has said but the colours in the ballast and the clean sleeper tops feel just right for the era compared to the mechanised mess we have today.

Robert   

https://mousa-models.co.uk/product/bck6224s-4-cie-mk-1-steam-heat-boiler-van-sides/

found this linked from new website - only one left  and of course not the one wanted for spray van sorry to say. 

Robert 

Thread a bit text rich so two pics  on Templedean and Poldene - this at the Dapol factory openday last year doing some on the fly repairs 

Well here goes for 10 penny worth ! I have many favourite layouts  but the rule is can it stand a viewing with nothing running .  I enjoy looking out for animals and examples of the normal .  However I have found over the years I have collected retired layouts - a sort of old peoples home. In N I have  Moorcock junction, Templedean ,  Poldene , a circular layout based on Starcross area of the GW mainline in Devon( and have built and sold on Gould st that was an office layout until Covid 19 struck and it had to go to make room for staff spreading out.) . In 3mm I have 2 triang TT layouts one was shown  at the Train collectors Exhibition in Sandy in the early 2000s.  Rob Brown`s  Chipping Compton sits on a living roof shelf  and boxed up is the wonderful TT layout  Minsterley by  the late Peter Gentle.  The small triang layout and Starcross are the only two not shown at some time .  

All this silly "big game hunting" is due to a desire to avoid layouts being broken up but all seen at shows and have been "Wow" moments for scenery, concept or simply enjoyable to watch trains go by in the countrysdie. 

In 4mm all I have is a shed plank I bought from a lad in Stourbridge junction and bought home on the train and a short bus ride !  If money was no object and many other impossibles lined up like ducks I would love to have Patrick as my neighbour ! and be allowed to operate Glen More....  Perhaps one day I will build an Irish layout but for now I enjoy the building of mine and reading about all the other much better than mine.     

Perhaps in 2021 we will all get a chance to enjoy a show somewhere and as remarked by a friend yesterday over Socially distanced tea and buns - enjoy the interaction with many friends on the circuit and fellow hobbists  paying on the door.     

One final exhibition tale - TINGS , The  International N gauge Show  at the Fosse in Leamington , perhaps 15 years ago now  it was the first show and being an N gauger since 1973 I was keen to see a show that headlined the best and got specialist traders under one roof. So having offered my Warley expertise I was in the hall early on the Friday, centre staff were marking the hall - it quickly became apparent that  sizes and hall fixtures were not working out, so I ploughed in and after half hour Chris the hall owner came over and a friendship started after it became clear that his plan was what I had "rubbished" but was also fixing.  Until 2020 fell over  I had been involved if 6 shows a year for Chris around the country as a fixer and humpa lumpa cum floor steward or front of house host. All because I model trains almost too small to see . Chris even has a 12mm Narrow gauge layout of repute - Aireworth in his loft - a classic layout serialised in the Railway modeller in the early  1970s. 

Back to gluing bogie side frames for GSV kits - oh and the lunchtime washing up..

Robert                  

Just ordered some B5 bogies from Southern pride and as gone back to finish outstanding on  my GSV plie (2) and of course I had some in the bottom of another box !  

Did the Bredin van wotk much with the bogie wagons - lots of vid footage with the 4 wheel mounted tanks  so a good use of  the Provincal wagons kits or a 3D print version perhaps. 

Robert    

Looking good !  Hard standing looks to be effective.  In UK for a short while in Scotland we had log loading "over the fence"  but due to a loader tipping over in the quagmire one night loading points now need to have concrete pads - so the cost of this put the rail operation into a non profit zone and now it all goes by road - no hard standing of course!   

Thanks for updates good to see mojo on 10.

Robert    

Hi  PH Designs do a set as does Bill Bedford/ Mousa models for the GSV so a case of adaption. I asked about price from PHD as currently out of stock but artwork ok for more.  I have Bills for one suitable for 3173 - ex BCK but not sure if he does one for 3178- ex BSK.   As a possible short cut via a Bachmann BSK I came across these in Ebay land .   www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Fillers-for-Bachmann-OO-scale-Mk1-Coach-conversions  these are 3D print blanks - I added a fine smear of filler and sanded back before fitting should be able to cut 5 and 10 thou plasticard for roof fill in panel and new window for location of the grill    and following the recipe for cut and shunt on the forum. 

Robert 

Hi RAL rail yellow is RAL 1003 but RAL 1004  to RAL 1006 all shades close   BR rail yellow has a BS code 381c - 356  - called signal yellow.

Robert    

1 hour ago, Noel said:

 

So B&T in the first wave?

hopefully not ON it then !!  per Wrenneire`s comment..

In UK same applies or used to as current power base has been changing legislation to protect owners and reduce their workload to provide a safe environment while making it harder to get into the legal system to mount claims, this might dissuade the odd fraudster  - but much is reported settled out of court, yet prevents legitimate claims from some work groups, even with union assistance.  

Despite over 100 years of compulsory education adult illiteracy is still an issue and  with the welcome rise in English second language residents who work hard  to send monies home to even poorer  family - many countries aspire to the NHS  dream but until then the poor have to help themselves in an increasingly expensive word of haves and have nots.  Thus signage and corporate care responsibility  continue to have a place.  I might joke at the amount of signage about but any warning that saves life and limb  has to be worth it. 

A well known British industry leader safety mantra is worth a thought " home safe, everybody, every day. "

Stay safe ! 

Robert 

9 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Next week people............
He told me not to say anything in case the ship sinks!

Tippex IE will be the last ones to arrive

All good things comes to those who wait long enough for Tippex !! long live Tippex.....  but good news is always good news, thanks

Robert 

Well to say amused by all this - the idea of picking model out by slip of polythene or in case of dapol models remove model and surrounding foam from box and then release model into the wild  is really all you need and once done is a skill. Another skill is the off button and using it, I find...  

Still despite froth on packaging looking forward to the 121 and the class 80 to follow.

Hi I have just been in contact with Mike of Judith Edge kits about the DH class as it falls into his market expertise of Industrials  and while he has noted he has not got them in his range he is now aware of the locos and interest there in.  Mike does note he has lots on the go and a long customer wish list, but hopefully it will get looked at. 

Robert    

Well first pic looks good with a bogie and No5 couplers mounted on two and two others part modified, and a roof having a first effort of scraping away unwanted ribs so far so good but  lower body has a telling  crack.  The second photo shows after middle section first cut  the two nearest show signs of a repaint, these two shattered on next cuts to remove doors , perhaps a reaction to the thickly applied paint.

Luckily I cut out more than need bogie spacers and able to get two more coaches from evilbay yesterday. Hopefully this will not fall apart.. I had bashed ahead with making 4 the same - but this wrong as well as the BFK  might well warrant less cutting...  so defo a case of more haste less speed. 

Hi all,

I was on the look out for NIR loco logs - I recall some rub down ones - source unknown  these I used on 112 and 101 but the MV had ones the same as 101 but my faulty brain thought the MV had tiny ones - cannot find any pic to agree with this - albeit of course I find a Hunslet with very small ones but too late as my rubdown one is on the model - albeit possibly now the wrong one!  

If any kind soul has any suitable dry rubs tucked away or a suitable water slide I can cross your hand with gold (or thereabouts ! )    

Many thanks

Robert 

Hi 

Well hopefully to add thread value I have been involved in the little local show run by the Warley Club in Birmingham.  We use hall 5 the largest indivisble hall which just fits out club layouts and some friends with theirs, I started in 2003 as a humpa lumpa but have ended up as the Construction Design manager - which is a humpa lumpa everybody loves to hate as I am responsible for construction site mangement - not the safety role but everything else. 

I recall a few years ago some chaps rolled up from Dublin with a bit of a stand - lovely guys all round !  Due to Safety and the clock rolling on I ended up putting barrier tape around the stand and at the 11th hour legging round the hall for white spirit. But it was ok on the day.  I have moved engines around the hall - well controlled the movement which means an early start in the first few shows but now its lunchtime on the Thursday. Even had Brummie Double deck buses in the hall.

As a local show we managed around 15,000- 17,000 for most years with just a bit of growth. year on year .  When we had the fun TV show challenge show building model railways a big uplift of hungry new faces -which was good. One layout the futuristic scene with track on clear perspex  was added to the Bachmann stand- it became clear it would not fit  sticking out just too far for all concerned as as befits a model railway crafted before the camera  out came the rip saw ... fitted with just one cut and nobody noticed, all in a days work.

 The little show consumes over 1200 chairs  and 650 tables on weekend hire and as the mug responsible I get to hand an almost empty hall back 4 hours after the public have legged it and my tables and stand contractors are off home   A sea of rubbish meets the eye - but is it all rubbish?  Well one year I gently kicked an empty box to discover prototype models from a leading trader - for a few  days I had the pleasure of being keeper of engineering one offs in N, 00 and O. These were returned and no ransom claimed but so close to being skipped it make be chill thinking about it. 

Absolutely cream crackered by 11.00 Sunday but ready to go with next show planning after review - but of course not this year.  Still hopefully 2021 will be blast. 

Robert         

Having seen folk who have returned models as packaging to difficult  to work out  then almost anything possible and of course we overlook the newbie from out position of experience but some times the length taken does make mind boggle.    Still not three long to wait to see bank account reduced to a  smoulding desert like black hole. 

Robert 

In North Wales we had a version of the Olympian - the DOG by Crosville designation ....     I recall one trying on the south coast trying to get to the beach having run away at Bournemouth.   Hope they sell well.  

Robert