Robert Shrives

Well got bogies sorted and started cutting the bodies - well two shattered as soon as a razor saw  got to work but two ok , so now off to find too more coaches but at least now have spare buffers and roof units .  One step forward and at least two back, along with IT issue so no pics yet. 

Robert 

2 hours ago, Georgeconna said:

I must admit this is one of the nicest layouts Irish wise out there. Captures the feel of the countryside excellently.

 

Agreed it catches the remoteness well and the little hives of activity that make up rural areas at a time when most if not all went by rail. Today the line would be host to 2600/ 2700 railcars and the carparks fill up the old yards - the crane long gone ! to be replaced by yards of palisade fencing, tarmac and gratuitous miles of yellow lines and notices stating the obvious.   Please keep the line "timelocked " as it is! 

Robert         

Hi 

Well setting wagons aside to day to pick up on a long term project mK3a International train - liked by some loathed by others it seems.  I have started 4 conversion basket cases today and got bogies from Southern pride test mounted and kaydee No5 s test fitted to two to try out curvature.  I have I think found 15 or so photos to help but wondered if anybody else had a go and any pitfalls to avoid very welcome. 

I have a plan to order the brake coaches - two were built but it looks like neither made CIE service with a MK3 doing the van and gen works - I was working on a rule one to make a BFK into a Driver trailer but was wondering if it would have got a full width cab MK3 pp style or a half cab allowing walk through with corridor left in place. Could it have had under floor gen sets like the Mk3 pp driver or a full blown gen set in the van and some of the saloon robbed for van space or perhaps set would have had both vans at outer ends? - I guess these thoughts resulted in the MK3 gen car andMK3a brake firsts going for razors but in 4mm we can have a little fun, even with a livery "upgrade."    

robert 

Hi all,

Despite thinking the story is complete I find that Ian at MIR made a resin version of his cast wagon - well a version on its way along with a 47 flat as well so that adds to the story - pictures when I can ! 

Has anybody got other versions  or scratch versions - please feel free to add. 

Robert  

IIRC protectionist polices and a lack of foreign currency and debt to US prevented buying US engines. - So much for special friendship.  On the flip side in UK we did buy 30 class 56s that were subbed to Romania - power units were shipped from UK to be fitted and then returned - it seems that UK ones were built before first batch was successfully delivered and accepted into traffic . A case of getting your own medicine when compared to A and C class deliveries perhaps.

The  first Yeoman 59s however were a special order and as such got VIP treatment, the only cause of early failures was due to UK fitted AWS equipment so it has been reported.  the Subsequent 59s and 66s have a touch of the Leyland / BMC  about them! 

When PRONI reopens  UTA paper work might solve the NIR questions as quite a lot but not all seems listed - the vague "bundles of minutes" would  offer a starting place...     

8 minutes ago, murphaph said:

DESC: MODEL TRAINS.

What an understatement!!!! 

The briefer the description the easier to get out of China without excess payments and good to see on plastic pallet. Hope they arrive without too much fuss.  

IIRC NIR had two tone horns on its BREL sourced railcars but only single tone on the 111s - I recall two tone on hunslets .   While not a precise science in listening to films with the risk of dubbed sounds  diesel tones not change much, some variation if trumpets battered by impacts. In many cases a part that stays with loco all its life.  There is a wonderful compilation of  horns on u tube.  with a creation of  Pacobell`s  Cannon . 

http://www.openculture.com/2020/04/pachelbels-canon-played-by-train-horns.html

Sure this does not help at tall but is fun ! 

Robert 

Hi  It is Halfords Bauxite primer,  Precision paints bauxite gloss for the number panel - as if wiped clean  and then a light dusting of a railgrime rattle can . transfers sealed in with humbrol matt varnish.  Bogies are more of the precision BR wagon bauxite from can on halford bauxite primer and that is about it. 

All done in 2 days but was a batch of models with the same colour.  Transfers from Railtec which were just right. 

Hope that helps 

Robert. 

50 minutes ago, Mick said:

If that is the announcement this week after I ordered 4 3d prints of 42fts I'll be heartbroken, and very broke when they launch

3D prints are really good  - put IRM loads on top and the high fidelity IRMs are your mptys! - simples..    What would be good is a limited number of the IRM bogies in twin packs. ....    

6 minutes ago, Railer said:

Yeah those buffer spindles have annoyed me since the Tara wagons released. I'd rather the compromise of a non sprung beefier spindle that these. Like what they went for on the Bubbles and Ballasts.

If that is all that "offends" on the IRM product it still gets my vote - and has my money - all of it !!!   Well started on BT10 bogies for covnersion of International stock from Southern pride in an idle moment.    

Bringing story up todate two pics of the IRM offering .   Well to me I can put 40 containers on the Hornby flat  and kegs on the MIR one and the SSM one - one of three  will be good to have empty, the other two go with the ammonia tanks. The 3D prints could well get weighted 20 side door containers  the IRM ones I would use as empties - possible future for the two in the spoil pack where the containers are "too modern   the containers to go on 3D print ones to go with sperry as a time traveller test train.

4 minutes ago, Railer said:

The buffers on the SSM ones look alot better then the RTR examples IMO.

Yes the spindles are well spindley  but perhaps having spotted it a bit of stainless steel tube might fatten out - now look what you have done given me a job ... !! but a good spot not many will mind..     

The buffers came from Lanakshire supplies and sold as used for Irish wagon models.  

Here are two views of the 3D print on Cambrian Gloucester bogies 

SSM brass fantastic origami 

mir cast

Hi Well I thought given the 42` flat project nears completion how did we get to this point in 4mm  models.   Hornby cutdowns, MIR cast, SSM brassagimi , Mayer 3D prints and IRM RTR.  so what do they look like : 

First up my cut and shut effort.  

Good to see metal exercises to counter ballasting !   For my small coins worth  I thought of the crane as a signature Irish item - and putting CIE ahead of many with early containerisation - such cranes of their time as now a reach stacker does it all and more, but this would be far to modern for Glen More. In the days of yore where common sense took a more important role of safety elves I think as place fine - the crane as was at Ballina nor Mallow fenced from the loop or running lines.  Layout looks better with it.

The factory being  a flat perhaps looks better in real life if opposite the regular operating position - but like compressed scale reductions only work from one viewing point.   If it is to remain David is on the money with needing to disguise the fact it is applied to the back scene. This would need some extensive scenics as the eye would be looking for extensive side walls and the associated infrastructure and dross - fule tanks, parked bits, rubbish bins electrical supply and perhaps a transfomer building etc

Currently it looks a little lost as a centre stage item - perhaps on the end wall by/ beyond the tar shed so it only gets a passing glimse which will "overlook" the 2D nature.  As a rural area perhaps the end of an orchard  with farmhouse painted on - in the middle distance might achieve the break in the landscape behind the station .  

All easy to suggest  from many miles away and miss your motivation but hoping to add to mental process rather than be negative (" less of those negative waves" as a film tank driver might have said!)      

loving it all as I do not have my own 4mm layout- just a collection of bare started projects. 

Robert 

The fly in was to ensure contract compliance  as it was all a bit late ... as said getting product to market at time said goes along way in consumer confidence.  IIRC getting 201 to work reliably was another step..

Robert   

Two tankers done - eyes gone off in protest !  I do need to add the brake handles, paint steps white and add some brake bits  plus a dose of rail grot and oil spills once varnished.   I am sure folk will now produce loads of pics to correct transfer locations, SSM site has some good pics but only a few via a google search ..  but I think they look the part so far.

Well tanks black and stating on transfers  also got some Railtec tank transfers ordered to add variation. phots later perhaps.  weedkiller pack arrived so off to dig out a part finished ( don`t be surprised!) GSV to see what can be done. 

Robert   

PH Designs back in 2010 did the GSV etch overlays - not in stock at this time Peter has just let me know but is getting a price for me next week  so these might give a good way of making the control vehicle.

My pack arrived today and a big thanks to all involved - great models crying out to be weathered.  Gives something to wrap around the Sperry while faffing with a control coach, given advice above I will be able to finish it without fear of the rtr one coming  along shortly after....

Robert      

Likewise good to read recovery in progress - the ballasting good therapy hopefully and I guess the dreaded work thing will get in the way at some point !  I notice you have had fertilizer delivered as well .    

take care and stay safe 

Robert 

I guess the bunker staff will be enjoying this thread while looking over the CAD for the  coach and the slide options for the full range of gen vans.  !!   Too much to hope on decent MK2 b and C models given nothing decent in UK and with NIR and IR relevance as well to follow the 80 class..... 

Robert 

20 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Excellent, thanks for that, Now which RAL?

Not too far off topic but BR / RT/ NR have five RAL warning yellows  in the "ok " range today. Who would be a manufacturer.  The yellow is less lemon than the loco but brighter than coach and tanks - the tanks are very faded and dirty anyway.  The coach suffers from chemical attrition due to overspray and age  so this photo shows four differing yellows on a bright day...     so good luck  on that one

RAL 1004 is golden Yellow  and shows on several plan paint listings for class 66s  FWIW. 

Best not mention scale colour at this point.

18 hours ago, iarnrod said:

It's probably best that the picture is fuzzy.

Hi 

I have had  NIR hunslet, C Class from John and excellent productions, so indeed a shame pic fuzzy . At £43 for a kit not a bad punt  to save filler time but looking forward to the RTR version...   Ordered pack just now  and could repaint  a Old lima BG in yellow as it was over length IIRC .. while waiting.    

Robert 

http://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/ir-ie-weed-van/

Might be a suitable short cut and inevitably if I purchase one the boys in the bunker will announce a full range of GSV options ! - (please)

Robert.     

Stephen, 

There is a very good 47foot 3D print  model available  https://www.shapeways.com/product/RG6PYUFWH/cie-47ft-lx-container-flat-wagon.  or https://www.shapeways.com/product/M447LJEE9/cie-47ft-lx-container-flat-wagon?- better finish.

I have three two in bauxite/ grime and third in black.  The SSM bogie and sideframes with peters spares 10.5mm wheels only need central hole opening out to take pivot on print - this I have drilled for a 1.5mmX 5mm self tapper and washer . Bogie has coupling extension soldered on and await a Kaydee fitting session. Sperry container fits over/ on wagon nicely . 

Robert