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As always, any additional info, corrections or feedback would be greatly appreciated. Mark 2 First Class (51xx) 5101-5106 = 42 seats in total. At some point in the 1990s, all carriages were fitted with standard class seating and fittings. Mark 2 Composite (515x) 5151-5159 = 24 Standard, 18 First (42 seats in total). At some point in the 1990s, all carriages were fitted with standard class seating and fittings. Mark 2 Standard Class (52xx) 5201-5236 = 64 seats. In 2000-2001, carriages 5209, 5213, 5216, 5225, 5232, 5233 and 5235 were refurbished and would wear the "Galway" livery. This refurbishment would include the carriages being completely rewired and treated for corrosion, along with new carpets, seats, curtains, tables, toilet fittings and interior ceiling panels. Mark 2 Restaurant (54xx) 5401-5411 = 26 seats, one wheelchair space. In 1977, 5408 was converted into a Presidential Saloon and was retired in 2011. It is currently on static display at Whitehead Railway Museum. In 2001, 5411 was refurbished and repainted into the "Galway" livery. Mark 2 EGV (56xx) 5601-5611 = Fitted with Two Detroit 8V-71N of 234hp at 1575rpm powering Two International Electric alternators of 160kW. 5601 was the only Mark 2 EGV to have been refurbished. On the 31st of March 2008, the final service used with a rake of IÉ Mark 2s would be the 05:05 Athlone - Heuston service. As of 2025: 5106 (now numbered 304), 5203 (renumbered as 303) and 5408 are currently preserved by the RPSI.
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“The Irish Corridor” an Irish Train game
228RiverOwenboy replied to Westcorkrailway's topic in General Chat
Here's a GSWR Class 500 I made a while ago (which started in 2023!). I imagine the livery is pretty inaccurate, although @jhb171achill would have to be the judge of that! Then, more recently, my CSÉT Ruston 88DS. I believe this was one of two that were based in Mallow. I haven't made any wagons for it to pull, so the 8200 was a fitting placeholder. More pics to come! -
Irish Rail Mark 3 Numbering Guide
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
Ah, yes! I believe it was numbered as 7173. Part of me wonders why it was often paired with the other Mark 3s. -
Irish Rail Mark 3 Numbering Guide
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
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Any corrections would be greatly appreciated. Mark 3 Control Car (61xx) 6101-6105 = Built under license at the Inchicore Works. 6105 was one of the last carriages constructed at Inchicore. They were designed in the UK, with finishing being carried out at Inchicore. The Mark 3s were assembled with parts from BREL. Mark 3 Suburban/push-pull (63xx) 6301-6319 = Built under license in the Inchicore Works. Almost identical to their Mainline counterparts, except for opening windows due to the lack of air conditioning. International Mark 3 Restaurant (6401) 6401 = Ex-BR 99523, renumbered as 6401 in IÉ ownership. It was the only Buffet Standard (BSO) of the Mark 3 International fleet. International Mark 3s (62xx) 6201 = Ex-BR 99521 BFK (Brake First Corridor). 6202-6208 = Ex-BR TSO (Tourist Standard Open). Mark 3 Café/Bar (6402) 6402 = Purchased from the UK in 2004, ex-HST TRFK (Trailer Restaurant First Kitchen) No. E40513 from 1979. Interfleet converted it into "Cafe/Bar" number 6402. It only saw 4-5 years of service with Irish Rail before being withdrawn in 2009. 6402 usually would have worked alongside the Push-Pull Mark 3s on the Waterford route. Mainline Mark 3s (71xx) 7101-7103, 7105-7106, 7108-7132, 7134-7146, 7148-7155, 7158-7164 = Standard Class, 72 seats. 7107, 7147, 7157 = Standard Class with 64 seats, with 7147 having a wheelchair space. 7165-7172 = Composites, 32 1st Class and 36 Standard Class seating. 7104, 7133, 7156 = Citygold vehicles, 48 First Class seats. 7161 and 7162 = Executive carriages. Mark 3 Restaurant (74xx) 7401-7405 = Built by BREL at Derby Litchurch Lane Works. 7406-7413 = Built under License at the Inchicore Works. (Both batches had 29 Standard Class seating) Mark 3 EGV (76xx) 7601-7607 = Built by BREL at Derby Litchurch Lane Works. 7608-7615 = Built under License at the Inchicore Works. Duration of the Mark 3s by type: "Cú Na Mara" Mark 3: 1994-2008 (14/04/08). Regular IÉ Mark 3: 1984-2009 (28/09/09), 2010 (IRRS railtour 24/04/10). Mark 3 Push-pull: 1989-2009.
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IE Mark 3's locations in Present Day and History
228RiverOwenboy replied to josh_'s topic in General Chat
Interestingly enough, 7607 and 7403 were initially earmarked for conversion to Permanent Way work, but it never materialised, and both were eventually scrapped at Inchicore in mid-2022. (image credit: Kieran Marshall on Flickr) -
141 and 181 Class Fleet Withdrawal and Scrappage Dates
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
...As if both the RPSI, DCDR/ITG don't have more than a handful of other stuff to worry about. To have two 121s, five 141s, and a 181 in preservation is something that isn't appreciated enough (the same goes for everything else that has thankfully made it to preservation). There are always people yearning for more as opposed to enjoying what we have. -
141 and 181 Class Fleet Withdrawal and Scrappage Dates
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
Updated again; this time it includes some corrections and added information related to the preservation side (many thanks to @GSWR 90 for the latter!) -
141 and 181 Class Fleet Withdrawal and Scrappage Dates
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
The RPSI bought 175 for preservation in November 2012, and it currently resides in Connolly shed alongside 141. Considering there are already five preserved 141 Class locomotives in total, is there a need for more? Where would they even be placed? The ITG bought 152 as a spares source for the three other GMs that they've preserved, thanks to their efforts. Also, the stored 141s at Inchicore are: 147, 171 and 177. -
141 and 181 Class Fleet Withdrawal and Scrappage Dates
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
144 was stripped of its useful parts (such as the engine and generator) by the RPSI before being scrapped entirely. Image source: IE_FOI_737 (page 189 of the PDF) -
141 and 181 Class Fleet Withdrawal and Scrappage Dates
228RiverOwenboy replied to 228RiverOwenboy's topic in General Chat
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Please Note! Currently, this is still a work in progress, and some info may be inaccurate; there are still a few locomotives without information, which will hopefully be added over time. Any additional info and/or corrections would be greatly appreciated. 1991 15/08/91: 191 was the first 181 to be withdrawn, having suffered severe damage after a runaway incident from North Wall that ended in Clonsilla on the 15th August. It was then recovered and brought into Inchicore where it was gradually stripped of spares. It was in service for (roughly) 35 years before withdrawal. 1993 05/10/93: 174 was the first 141 to be withdrawn from service, being stopped for a body overhaul, but instead was cannibalised for spares. 1996 May: 161 was withdrawn from service. 1999 22/03/99: 158 sustained a bent frame following a shunting mishap at Limerick and was subsequently withdrawn on the same day. 2002 December: Nine years after its withdrawal, 174 was scrapped at some point during that month. Month unknown: 148 and 155 were both withdrawn sometime in 2002. 2003 May: 150 was stopped. July: 157 was also stopped. November: 188 was (again) stopped. Month unknown: 158 was scrapped in the same year. 2004 November: 150, 157 and 188 were withdrawn. 2005 Month unknown: 183 was scrapped. 2006 September: 148 was scrapped on the 9th, while 186 and 159 were scrapped during the same month. 06/10/06: 172 was withdrawn from service. 2007 January: 181 was withdrawn from service, and 172 was scrapped. June: 168 and 151 were stopped entirely, while 153, 154 and 181 were eventually scrapped. Month unknown: 170 suffered a fire in Limerick and was then moved to Inchicore for repairs. 2008 31/03/08: 154 was withdrawn. April: 149, 166 and 184 were stopped on the 4th, while 151 and 189 were scrapped on the 25th and 29th of the same month. June: 165 was withdrawn completely. 06/08/08: 160 had been scrapped. 13/08/08: A week later, 165 was also scrapped. 29/07/08: 184 was scrapped. 06/08/08: 160 was scrapped. 13/08/08: 165 was scrapped. 19/08/08: 149 was scrapped. 20/08/08: A day later, 170 was scrapped. 25/08/08: 169 was scrapped. 28/08/08: 185 and 173 were stopped. 10/11/08: 192 was scrapped. 13/11/08: 173 was also scrapped, having been withdrawn earlier in the month. 27/11/08: 185 was scrapped just under three months after withdrawal from service. 12/12/08: 163 was both stopped and withdrawn on the same day. 17/12/08: Five days after, 163 was scrapped. 2009 24/02/09: 187 was scrapped. 20/04/09: 167 was withdrawn from service. By the 22nd of April 2009, 141, 142, 144, 146, 147, 152, 162, 171, 175 and 177 were the remaining 141s in service, while 190 was the sole survivor of the 181 Class after 187 was scrapped in February of that year. 27/06/09: 152 and 171 hauled what would be the last passenger train pulled by an IÉ-owned 141, that being an IRRS railtour to Limerick, where the pair hauled a rake of 7 Mark 3s. Unfortunately, on the return leg of the journey, 171 suffered a hot engine at Thurles, and the train was cancelled. 21/08/09: 141 was withdrawn from service. 22/08/09: A day later, 141 was acquired by the RPSI to be preserved, being the first 141 Class locomotive to be bought for preservation. 07/11/09: 190 was the last member of the 181 Class to be withdrawn. Working for exactly 42 years, 10 months and 10 days. Thanks to the efforts of the ITG, 190 was purchased for preservation and subsequently moved to the West Clare Railway for storage. 01/12/09: 142 was also acquired by the RPSI, marking it as the second 141 to be preserved. 2010 February: 142, 144, 146, 147, 162 and 171 would be withdrawn from service, although 162 and 175 were later reinstated as pilot locomotives. 21/02/10: 141 and 142 ran a railtour organised by the RPSI, dubbed the "Diesel Do" railtour, running from Dublin Connolly to Longford and back. This was the first (and only) time a preserved 141 Class ran a railtour. 22/02/10: Having suffered a brake problem at Ballyhaunis, 152 was stopped. It spent the last few months of service operating engineering works trains around the Mayo area. 24/02/10: Two days later, 152 and 175 were withdrawn, though the latter would be later reinstated as a pilot locomotive alongside 162 and 171. 05/03/10: 146 was withdrawn from service. 28/04/10: 142 ran light engine from Dublin to Whitehead Railway Museum, where it currently works as the yard shunter. May: Two months after withdrawal, 146 is the third 141 to be preserved, being the first 141 Class locomotive to be acquired by the ITG. 25/11/10: 152 was purchased by the ITG and moved to the West Clare Railway in Moyasta, where it would be stored alongside A3R, 124 and 190 until June 2025. 27/11/10: 146 was moved to the Downpatrick & County Down Railway, where it resides to this day. 12/12/10: 146 was (successfully) started up for the first time in preservation. Month unknown: 167 would be scrapped sometime in 2010. By the end of 2010, the remaining active 141s were as follows: 162, 171 and 175. 2011 March: While I have no information as to when 162 was withdrawn and stopped, the latest dates of 162's activity go as far as March 2011, when it was used to shunt B113 out of the siding of the Bogie Shop at the Inchicore Works. Photo: https://transportsceneireland.smugmug.com/RailSceneIreland/RSI-March-2011-Kildare/i-s9PCLgZ/A (25/03/11) and video: https://youtu.be/uMInBWUJXao?si=u-RTSOUsYetqslvN&t=77. 24/07/11: 175 was withdrawn from service. November: At the age of 48 years and 11 months old, 171 was finally retired, having been the last of the 141 Class to be in service with Irish Rail. 2012 01/11/2012: 175 was acquired and preserved by the RPSI. 2016 19/07/16: 141 and 175, along with preserved 121 Class number 134, are transferred from Inchicore to Connolly shed for better storage conditions. This move was performed by 071 Class number 071. 2022 13/03/22: 144 was scrapped on this date. After 144 had been scrapped, the remaining withdrawn 141s were as follows: 147, 162, 171 and 177. 2025 01/06/25: 190 was moved by road from Moyasta to Downpatrick & County Down Railway. 07/06/25: 190 was successfully started up for the first time in preservation. 08/06/25: 152 was also moved by road from Moyasta to the Downpatrick & County Down Railway. 10/07/25: 162 was scrapped on this date; 162 was the second last 141 Class locomotive to be used by IÉ, where it was confined to pilot duties alongside 171, which was finally taken out of service in November 2011. As of November 2025, the remaining withdrawn 141s are as follows: 147, 171 and 177. Out of the thirty-seven 141 Class locomotives built, five are currently preserved, those being: 141, 142 and 175 (owned by the RPSI) and 146 & 152 (both owned by the ITG). Out of the twelve 181 Class locomotives built, 190 is the sole surviving example, preserved by the ITG.
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I'd say either 500... or something from the 372 Class, those moguls definitely stood out, methinks.
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162 was scrapped during this month. I believe that it was the second-to-last 141 to be in service until its withdrawal in mid-to-late 2011, although any corrections would be greatly appreciated.
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144 got scrapped in March/May of 2022 while I'm pretty sure 162 is next in line. All that remains now are: 147 171 And 177
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I'd imagine something like that, didn't the 121s have a bit of a struggle when pulling 6 Mark 3 Suburbans by themselves (as in one loco)?
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Had a visit at Inchicore pretty recently. Her cab interior hasn't been fully sorted from what I saw inside, the electrical stuff still needs finishing. So I suppose, cosmetically speaking, she's complete, but mechanically? Most likely not.
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073 repainted into IR white stripe livery
228RiverOwenboy replied to thewanderer's topic in What's happening on the network?
Nothing of it so far. I'm not too surprised! -
Irish Railway News ‘Enterprise Watch’
228RiverOwenboy replied to IrishTrainScenes's topic in General Chat
"HOW DARE THAT C3K RUIN MY PROFESSIONAL VIDEOGRAPHY!!!" A bit of wibbling I see -
Some news on 162... This photo was taken on the 21st of November at Inchicore. At the time she was paired with 086 and 3185TL (the latter being owned by the RPSI). Most definitely due for scrap very soon. (Credit: Own work)
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Mothballed 201s Thread
228RiverOwenboy replied to Railer's topic in What's happening on the network?
147, 162, 171 and 177 are still around, though recently I've seen 162 in a dire state. There's a red "X" on the side of her cab, so I can only assume she's up for scrap very soon. 144 was scrapped in March 2022, so there's four 141s left at Inchicore. -
073 repainted into IR white stripe livery
228RiverOwenboy replied to thewanderer's topic in What's happening on the network?
The person who posted the video replied to a comment asking where he got this info regarding 073, and he simply replied with "worker", I'm slightly doubting this since 073 wasn't due for any repaints as far as I know... -
073 repainted into IR white stripe livery
228RiverOwenboy replied to thewanderer's topic in What's happening on the network?
Someone's after saying that 073 has been reverted back to the typical IE dark grey... https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe2mpqbL/
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