Flying Snail

Great to see the progress thats being made: well done to you all. This is going to be something very special (it already is)!!

On 30/10/2022 at 3:09 AM, connollystn said:

I recommend a visit to the cafe - the scones were very tasty, the Accurascale 37 and 31 looked very tasty also (not available in the cafe).

I'll second the cafe recommendation - I had the barmbrack because of the weekend thats in it   - I didn't get the ring or the coin but my wallet was convinced I got the oul rag after I came away from the stands with all my goodies! 

Thoroughly enjoyed the day - had as much fun chatting with the exhibitors as I had watching the excellent exhibits!

14 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Great to see so many familiar faces today at Raheny, and some of the regulars on here who I had not previously met in person.... congratulations to the organisers, and by the number of IRM, Mark's Models, and other carrier bags walking out the door, it looks as if sales were busy............  as if it's any wonder, given all the new stuff!

Are there any/many of the stands not taking card payments? Just wondering if I need to bring my piggy bank tomorrow or if I can max out herself's credit card instead

And now we're bang up to date with the definitive model for the modern era! These are going to fly off the shelves. They look awesome!

Heading to Raheny tomorrow - really looking forward to it. Now that the announcements have been made, what are we able to drool over at the IRM stand by way of samples etc for the ICRs and Mark 2 Bs & Cs?    

Excellent choice - I love anything black and orange!

Just now, Westcorkrailway said:

dart to Palmerstown.

Did some Dub tell you to get a Dart to Palmerstown??? They're always up to mischief  

1 hour ago, Warbonnet said:

Hi Flying Snail,

Many thanks for pointing this out. We must remind Hattons that they are not an IRM retailer. 

Cheers!

Fran 

My 13th post and all - unlucky for some (someone in Hattons that is) 

Just spotted the 42' flats and containers are up on Hattons: https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklist/3156807/0/irish_railway_models/mfrnest

Correct me if I'm wrong but I I think its the first time they've carried IRM wagons? (I know they already carry Accurascale). Might be handy for some in the UK and around Liverpool

On 25/10/2022 at 11:19 AM, Flying Snail said:

Them IRM lads are like the Spanish Inquisition on Monty Python - did anyone expect the chaldrons? 

On 25/10/2022 at 11:32 AM, Broithe said:

An excellent suggestion for a corporate uniform style.

Nobody ever expected the 'Dicky' Taras 

20 minutes ago, murphaph said:

There are still a few gentlemen in the hobby. Not every 141 that changes hands goes for silly money . 

Oh absolutely, and there's an awful lot of those gentlemen on this forum, including your good self - I was a bit clumsy with my choice of words there so apologies. I should have said 'anyone' instead of 'everyone': there are plenty of good guys (and gals) out there and I didn't mean to imply otherwise 

1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said:

What do ye think of this rumour?

Brilliant news - sorry for you and everyone else thats been driven to fork out so much recently, but its great news for newcomers like me especially. Mind you, I think the earlier runs will still be able to command decent money too

46 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Great news, especially for newcomers who are paying silly money for baby GMs. I have all 9 of the ones appropriate to my era but I strongly suspect I will be unable to resist taking one each of the new release in IR & IE, boosting my baby GM fleet by almost 50%!

Absolutely - I'm not going to lie: I did a little dance when I saw that. Been looking at the prices some of these were fetching on eBay and had given up ever getting my hands on one. 

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

 

 

 

Reading about the fate of some of the coaching stock on page 124 of the IRRS article, there's three carriages mentioned.

One was sold to the W&T, and the drawings for that are available from the HMRS and Alan O'Rourke wrote a short article about scratch building a model of it in the HMRS Journal vol. 19 #12 (I have that stashed away somewhere if its helpful to anyone?).

The other two carriages became GSWR 600 and 601 - eventually being converted into ''beer vans" by the GSR. 601 ended its days as a hut in Monasterevan. I wonder if anyone has come across any photos of 600 and 601?

Not to worry @jhb171achill, you've already produced a goldmine!

Another thing that also might appeal to those interested in the WLWR and GSWR (and shipping too), is that I came across a lot of interesting late 19th century and early 20th  photos on the National Library's website taken from Mount Misery and overlooking the station area and the quays. Lots of good panorama shots there and most are a very good resolution meaning you can zoom in - and because they're panorama shots if you set the 'railroad' filter on you'll actually miss some of the more interesting ones. The original WLWR terminus was a beautiful building ....

Thanks a million @jhb171achill - great reading there and the slightest, tiniest tease of a carraige and an open wagon in a couple of those pics! 

33 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

If you need access to any IRRS Journals, I have a complete collection going back to 1946. If someone can tell me what date the article referred to above was included, I will fish it out and send it to you.

With Mayner's 52 class, perhaps some time between 1900 & 1910 might be a better start?

1900 - 1910 might be a better starting point alright, and who knows where I'll end up . IRRS Journal 074 (October 1977) has an article on the WCIR which I'd be grateful to see if you have it handy?

15 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

with 4 announcements…..there is very little chance anyone will be left out. Unless of course you happen to model the Waterford and central ireland railway or Cork and macroom direct railway. In which case i would be a little more skeptical!
 

 

I know I'm new to the parish, but I wouldn't be so sure about that @Westcorkrailway. Them IRM lads are like the Spanish Inquisition on Monty Python - did anyone expect the chaldrons? I reckon a WCIR 4-wheeler triple pack is nailed on as one of the announcements, the only question is whether or not its today 

Thanks for the welcome folks - and for all that info! There's plenty to ponder there!

@Westcorkrailway - I am leaning more on the Victorian stuff at the moment, but starting with what's there and working back seems like a good strategy. I like the work you've been doing on rolling stock conversions by the way - very inspiring.

@jhb171achill - wow: thanks very much for that livery info! I see a trip to the museum in Malahide in my immediate future . Anything WCI related I'm definitely interested in, so GSR era timetables would be very welcome. Do you think any of the other WCI passenger stock lasted lasted far enough into GSWR days to feature in any of the GSWR carriage diagrams collections? 

@Mayner - I have a couple of your 3d models - an open wagon and a brake van that could nicely tie in with GSR/CIE era. I think they are great, the level of detail is excellent. So I really hope you find a solution to your 3D printer issues. I also have to say that the Abbeyleix picture I linked above actually prompted me to get your class 52 kit - to my untrained eye its very impressive and the deal in instructions show your attention to detail. Its not for beginners though, so the kit is in the drawer until I get confident enough with the soldering iron. I reckon pairing it with some Studio Scale Models six-wheelers might go a long way towards recreating that scene from the picture.  Speaking of which, does anybody think that the SSM six wheelers would be a good option to cut my teeth on brass kits or should I go for something like their open wagon instead?

@David Holman I've been looking back over your thread where you talk about the WCI build - wow - I'll definitely have a look at Alphagraphix and 7mm.

As you can see, I've a lot of thoughts bouncing around in my head so I just need to focus and start one of them off. But first, I'm off to check out Castlerackrent ...

Thanks @Westcorkrailway - I'm under no illusions, this one will be a slow burner!

I do have something a little more recent (and probably a lot more practical) in mind too  - though its something from completely different era. I've seen a pic from Eiretrains of A30 in Mountmellick with a 1961 rail tour and there was the annual beet campaigns around then too. So there's a few options there in an extremely run-down Mountmellick in the years just before the line was lifted ... and yes, I've already picked up my model A30 from IRM (and very handsome it is too )

Hello all,

I found this forum a little while ago and its a great mine of information, but for a long time I held off joining as I've yet to do any serious modelling. What I have been doing is pondering what I'd like to have a go at on once I do get going. Which brings me to the W&CIR. Back in the 90s I used to hike out along the line from Portlaoise to Cúil na Móna, and either Mountmellick or Abbeyleix strike me as interesting locations to model. In particular, this picture of Abbeyleix fascinates me - its taken in the early 1900s after the GS&WR had taken over the W&CIR, but it has piqued my interest in the turn of the last century.

I know there's not much by way of suitable RTR (at least not until the big announcements from IRM this week ) so I reckon I'm going to end up giving scratch building a go at some point. I know there's some good resources for the GS&WR era to CIÉ era out there, but I'd like to see if anyone can point me towards the W&CIR?

I've already come across Paul Johnson's W&CIR loco photos on SmugMug, and I've a copy of Locomotive's of the GS&WR by Clements, McMahon and O'Rourke. I've also seen two articles in the Railway magazine (May 1952 and an earlier one with more loco pictures taken in Waterford). What I'm finding it very hard to source are images/drawings of other rolling stock - apart from two sets of drawings for a 2nd class 4-wheeler and a 3rd class 6-wheeler which I've gotten from the HMRS. I've seen @David Holman's workbench thread where he's made a very fine model of a W&CIR inspired brake van - I think its from a picture in Ernie Sheppard's WL&WR book which also shows a carriage and convertible cattle wagons, but I can't make out much detail from these. 

So to recap, there's a reasonable amount of loco photos, and the two HMRS carriage diagrams are a good start, but has anybody any leads on where I might get images/drawings of W&CIR goods stock in particular?