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Lough Erne
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Crosshead detail - note how shallow crosshead is and small distance between bars
Lough Erne posted a gallery image in Member Albums
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Driving axle showing 90 degree webs and eccentrics
Lough Erne posted a gallery image in Member Albums
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Weightshaft detail - note arm for mechanical lubricator
Lough Erne posted a gallery image in Member Albums
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Piston Valves and piston rod detail and gland assembly
Lough Erne posted a gallery image in Member Albums
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Hope to post an album of photos of 171 then 131 at end of week or at the latest sunday
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Interesting stuff Leslie, though there will only be 2 blue 4-4-0 on the go as 131 was never blue (apart from a very small period of time for an inchicore open day) and I doubt very much that she will be blue though never say never as it will all depend on tender availability! - 3 engines and 2 tenders - unless we paint 171 black and wait a while until 131 has her own tender prior to painting 171 blue, though this may have GNR fans somewhat irked.
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It was a very successful and enjoyable evening on Thursday. From mikes superb film (only one of many) the majority of electrical testing has been done in preparation for the main electrical/steam/brake etc tests in the near future. There is no lining on the loco yet - only about 3/7 of the tender but it is hoped to have her done by the new year. Test trains are still to be confirmed as there are still paper work mountains to be scaled but it should be middle/late January early Feb all being well.
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The tender was the one that it was paired with for display at Dundalk etc. The only parts left of it today are the wheels, frame, handbrake and a few detail sections. Apart from that, everything above floor level was scrapped as it was rotten and beyond use unfortunately.
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Weshty, The tender in theory paired with 131 currently consists of the chassis as the body was completely rotten and broken up in inchicore around 2001 or so. The tender is a more modern tender (not an original Q tender) with roller bearings and was similiar (if not identical) to the old tender at mullingar. The current thinking is to build a Q class shaped tender i.e. straight sides with flared rails on top of the chassis in due course - donations and funding depending.
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If it is indeed irish I would guess it is supposed to resemble a bandon tank judging by tank and footstep position though the cab lets it down as it is the wrong shape
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I seem to recall when I was in inchicore, when the drawings were found 2 very large crates stuffed with drawings as well as the Beyer Peacock drawing cylinders for a few locos but I cant remember what they were now. Horsetan - Will hopefully get photos on sat - A thought - Would any photos of 131 motion be of use as it is very similar and has the benefit of being on the floor in pieces eg close ups of the crossheads , eccentric rods etc
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Horsetan, As far as I am led to believe the RPSI have very few (if any) S class drawings and only one Q class drawing would you believe - which will make rebuilding 131 even more fun! esp when trying to replicate parts lost over the years. Incidentally, I am a semi- regular volunteer at whitehead and could take a few photos when I am down next week if you want to post a list?.
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Looking at the prototype and the model there are a number of characteristic detail differences. Also the wheelbase looks a little longer in the model and the saddle tank needs to be flatter on top. However, I would say if the cab was completely rebuilt with rectangular windows, the safety valves replaced with Ross Pop valves and the sandboxes put above the running board you would get a fairly convincing representation of the T&CR loco. The smokebox is a little far back as well though depending on how much surgery you want to do to it,I would leave it, but if you did modify it you could change the buffers as well.
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From what i can find she was built in 1925 in Dundalk in the era before the GNR started to build coaches out of cardboard. It was a unique vehicle and was slightly longer than her M van counterparts at 62 ft over buffers. It was withdrawn by CIE in 1969 and I assume scrapped in that year.
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All information about the train including times etc is on the rpsi website http://www.steamtrainsireland.com/events/
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The Dundalk railway society have chartered the train from Dundalk to whitehead and back on Sunday with 461 providing the motive power and a GM doing the carriage positioning runs.
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The photo - I think is from 2008 - I recall being involved in the shunting that day.
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Unfortunately it will be a while before 171 is in steam again, however 85 may make an appearance before the end of the year though it is looking less likely as time moves on, as it will require extensive running in prior to hauling timetabled trains. As regards 131 it is most unfortunate that in its life between Dundalk and arrival in whitehead a few bits have gone missing/ deteriorated to nothingness which while not impossible to replace will add to the time and cost of the project.
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It was an industrial railway and was established in the 18th century
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Where and when was the first railway in Ireland Clue - not Dublin
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186 was in fine form on both Saturday and Sunday last. Shunting the yard on the Saturday and then out on the mainline to Larne Harbour and back. Would recommend trying to travel behind her before the end of the year.
