flange lubricator

 They are very nice  models virtually the same as the GNR covered vans which CIE inherited following the dissolution of the GNR they also have the same Morton brake rigging. 

The Mk2c looks stunning.

5 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

When I was a lad, we only needed one thread on the one subject...

 

 

Ah those were the days.

Fabulous love the screw jacks on the running plate very distinctive feature of the SLNCR

1 hour ago, Mayner said:

 

To add to the confusion CIE rebuilt some 64 seat Laminate coaches using traditional coach building techniques during the late 70s-early 80s with a different paneling/cover slip arrangement to the original laminate stock!

When is a Laminate not a Laminate?

 Laminate 1463 Mullingar 1981-2 withdrawn following a minor shunting accident, the coach was repaired and entered service with the RPSI during the 1980s

Rebuilt using traditional timber framed carriage building techniques paneling and cover slip detail different to the original Laminates.

I would go so far as to say that the vast majority were rebuilt in that manner by the early eighties when they were withdrawn, I worked on some of the RPSI ones in the mid eighties and as John says they were laminates in name only . 

In the new products announced recently by Bachmann I came across this addition to their range and it certainly looks similar to an Irish Cabin like Birr Co Offaly.

https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000303197

On 1/8/2023 at 10:33 AM, leslie10646 said:

Flange Lubricator said:   A very difficult picture to find however if you look through the wonderful IRRS flickr site and look in the Tom Davitt collection there is a picture at Liffey Junction of a GNR 1795 Bogie wagon and in the background is a ex GNR covered van with pressed steel ends and a  white CIE roundell .

Thanks, Mark, that's a useful reminder. The photo before is a brown / bauxite example with the plain white "Wheel". So, that's that sorted! I had photos of the plain white / grey combination, it's the Orange (tan?) / white wheel with grey that I really sought. The "orange" would make a dull wagon a little more interesting?

I'd been through the "Wagon" album on Ciaran's brilliant site (for the rest of you - access to it is a good reason to be a IRRS member!). without seeing it! Now, I'll trawl the other "Photographer" albums - a lot of evidence is hidden behind other things, as Mark has spotted here. Thanks for the reminder!

Father Tom took some very interesting photographs and I remember him from his days in London when he put up with my youthful enthusiasm when we both sat on the IRRS London Area committee.

from a JHB post Grey livery with Orange roundell

33 minutes ago, Newtoncork said:

Did the six wheelers ever run with Cravens? Could they?

They certainly did when first introduced until the arrival of the Dutch vans and BR Mk 1 vans and by the mid 1970's the Six wheel van were relegated to be mainly used  on secondary and suburban services .

31 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

JB said:  The GNR bagged cement wagons, I can attest, did indeed survive not only into "broken wheel" times, but also the latter-day (1970-6) brown livery with broken wheel. I saw several thus - one, I recall, at Templemore, another in Rock St goods yard in Tralee. Both brown - therefore, they would obviously have also been grey before that! So, you can have GNR grey, flying snail grey, broken wheel grey and broken wheel brown, if so inclined!

That's what I'm doing, JB. After going through every book I own, several photo collections and Ernie's wonderful archive, I still can't find an example of the middle one (Grey plus Wheel). But, as I said on the other thread, enough  to be pretty sure of what they looked like. So that's today's job, putting the instruction to Dapol together.

A very difficult picture to find however if you look through the wonderful IRRS flickr site and look in the Tom Davitt collection there is a picture at Liffey Junction of a GNR 1795 Bogie wagon and in the background is a ex GNR covered van with pressed steel ends and a  white CIE roundell .

On 30/7/2023 at 9:15 AM, Mayner said:

First decent photo of the CIE Bulk Grain wagons converted from H vans during the late 50ss early 60s, the Brake Van 23596 appears to have had some damage repairs to the veranda planking at one end only  

I wonder how were these  Grain wagons Discharged was there a hopper underneath ?

25 minutes ago, skinner75 said:

How long would it take to get to Letterkenny at any rate - 4 hours? 

Mad for their cars up there anyway - especially the ones with the yellow rear plates on them...

I think we are  looking at a time when petrol / diesel cars will be very much restricted and the only cars with yellow number plates on them or not will be electric ones .

3 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Would these BSGV's be apt for running with IRM's Park Royals?

I assume that a Park Royal rake will require some sort of heating van!

More than suitable to run with the forthcoming IRM Park Royals. Very well illustrated in this picture on Colm O'Callaghan's flickr page 32xx BGSV with Park Royals .

And another one by Neil Smith 

25 minutes ago, Metrovik said:

Picked up this 121 class at the MRSI show last October, I was drawn to her not wanting to spend upwards of €180 for the Murphy models version. It's a surprisingly good runner given its age indicated by the couplings. I think it's kit built but checked online and can't find any trace of it Anybody recognise it? or better still know who built it?  Also there's a lamp fitted inside that lights up, I just don't know why because it seems to just be under the body shell, maybe it once lit the cab or headlights?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say I’d prefer spending €180 on a Murphy models one tbh . 

2 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

This is Premier League standard, I'm still waiting to get promoted from league 1, this is a great thread.

The rest of us are non league by comparison.

56 minutes ago, Warbonnet said:

yes actually  

So are we having a countdown to the countdown timer ? 

3 hours ago, seagoebox said:

pal van 1.pdf 940.67 kB · 7 downloads

pal van 2.pdf 485.72 kB · 5 downloads

Great additional information Seagoebox .

Still pondering the answer to this question from studying various pictures the CIE Palvans were certainly taller than the standard 12 ton standard covered van which is 11'5", this excellent picture from J M Allen of a loose coupled goods which has a Palvan next to the loco illustrates the point very well the Palvan to my eye seems to be the same height as the 181 class which is 12'6" to the top of the exhaust manifold. Not very scientific but in the absence of an actual drawing might be the best we can get.

3 hours ago, irishrailways52 said:

I have seen board na mona locomotives in working condition cheaper.

does anyone know a bit about its history

Was once a CIE H van that was sold off when withdrawn from Railway service and has languished outside in the elements for the past 50 years now  some chancer has put it up for sale looking for someone who is going to give €4500 of their hard earned cash for it because of its railway heritage.

Even if it had the wheels and running gear it wouldn’t be worth that price . 

1 hour ago, leslie10646 said:

Come on, David, while I sympathise with your views re The Big Island, SPURS are there? So not quite "no interest in anything" .........

Well if one is supporting spurs it could be said that your interest in football is questionable 

1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said:

No offence meant here but on perusal of the title of this forum, my one says Irish Railway Modeller
Nothing about Accurascale!
I dont know a class 37, 55 or 66 from a kick in the arse and have no interest in anything Brexitland so I would like to suggest that you start a new forum for all things other that Irish models and leave us alone

 

Like your good self WRENNEIRE I have zero interest in British models but it is under the correct thread of British Outline Modelling .

Sorry to hear of his passing. 

39 minutes ago, Sean said:

Whilst i do agree ,I also think with such an abundance of RTR passenger stock on the horizon that it may eat into their "must have" status that they seem to have now. 

It very much depends on peoples modelling eras prior to the mid eighties the stock was mixed after that the Park Royals and cravens tended to be marshalled in sets with the Park Royal's being withdrawn in 1991 but anyone modelling 1990's-2006 Cravens are a must have .

40 minutes ago, Sean said:

One thing ive been wondering lately, will the upcoming park royals somewhat kill the demand for cravens when they land?

Possibly but I think they will still be in demand to run along side the Cravens 

3 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

Thanks for the junction pictures, I never saw those before.

The O’Dea collection is a great and easily accessible resource of pictures.