flange lubricator

Keeping my fingers crossed that  we might see an early 20’ x 8’ B&l containers.

 B& I liner train approaching, Limerick Junction North, Co. Tipperary. (nli.ie)

They look great Arran . 

WRENNEIRE would be a good place to start he might know a man ………..

21 minutes ago, 228RiverOwenboy said:

Goodness me is she gorgeous... 

There is a lot of rolling stock preserved in various liveries but this is the first one in B&T considering how long that livery was in use 1961 -1987 is nice to see a coach turned out in it finally. 

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

How do the numbers stack up? I'm nearly sure that I saw @jhb171achill post before that there were 6 (pre-rebuild) Dutch vans and 22 BR Mk1 GSV at one stage?

Four Wheeled and six wheeled heating vans had a very short service life compared to the Dutch and BR vans , happily IRM are doing a brake version of the Park Royal so that means you can run your New Park RoyalS and MM cravens with a brake . 

Looks stunning in the original Black and Tan livery . 

1 hour ago, ttc0169 said:

BR and the dutch versions -both types please with working steam heating boiler

While we have discussed many times the feasibility of doing GSV both Dutch and BR versions I wonder would there be a market for doing one in DCC with sound and lights both tail and interior one’s working, this would be in the price range reflected in what it is . 

5 hours ago, Mayner said:

 

Apart from a suitable BSGV Van the main item missing to model a conventional 1972-1987 era  CIE Intercity train  is a Buffet Car.

 

The Park Royal’s share the same 61’6” underframe and commonwealth bogies as the 2419-2422 Buffet Cars unfortunately the numbers required to produce such a model may not be there to make a one off viable.

Another option https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306739

13 minutes ago, Sean said:

what kinda EGV ran with these or was there none since they are numbered TL?

Originally they would have run with ordinary brake vans and tin vans with steam locomotives  providing heat pre 1963 , they would have run with four wheel and six wheel heating vans  in the diesel era then Dutch vans and BR Mk 1 vans and 32xx BGSV vans providing heat and power for TL fitted coaches . By the early 1980’s pretty much all the Park Royal’s would have been converted from Battery / Dynamo  lighting to TL with 220v power. 

1 minute ago, murphaph said:

Cheers Mark. Did they ever run in revenue service through Kildare as late as '94?

No they were banned from the lines with 90mph running due to their construction from the mid eighties so they would not have been in Kildare on revenue earning services.

5 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

mounted on an all-welded triangulated 61’ 6” underframe, running on Commonwealth bogies. These underframes were made in the United Kingdom, by the Wolverhampton firm of John Thompson Pressings Ltd.

Not to jump to conclusions but this underframe and bogies were also shared on the laminates and other coaches  like parcel vans and buffet cars so the future is very bright indeed …………..

15 minutes ago, murphaph said:

On what duties could Park Royals be found running in revenue service at withdrawal in 1994?

Secondary services Outer Dublin suburban, Cork-Cobh , Limerick-Rosslare, Limerick-Ballybrophy and Ballina Branch .

On 7/2/2023 at 4:20 PM, flange lubricator said:

The Park Royal coaches would be a great one to do as they span the period 1955 to 1990 with many liveries Silver , Green , Black and tan and IR B&T with two white stripes , also many variants Suburban, mainline , Guard/ brake, Snack car etc  

Glad to see IRM doing Park Royal’s as their next or project . 

Great choice plenty of variants and liveries and a huge gap in the rolling stock range for anyone covering the Irish scene from 1950’s to 1990’s.

3 minutes ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

Isn't debate great

Yes nice that everyone has a different opinion and can express it 

1 hour ago, exciecoachbuilder said:

Hi, was the bus in the photo sold as an An 68? These buses were always known  in the bus depot's and in the BMS in Inchicore works as D cars. The Spa Road built Van Hool buses built in the 70's were always called AN68's, not the one in this photo. Paul.

Yes your correct the model is PDR1A1 Metsec/  CIE H74D or D car the model is D602 which was built at Spa road by Van Hool McArdle  , CIE built D1-D521/23 , VHM built D522-554/524 , 555-602 in 1973  , D602 was the last Metsec CIE D , VHM then built the AN68 D603/604 - 840 1974 on . 

10 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said:

Am I the only one that thinks €185 is a huge price for the oo gauge bus? 

Yes they are tad expensive but having purchased one of the earlier D class buses all I can say is they are a stunning model they are limited production runs  hence the price they and come in a presentation box too.

1 hour ago, Moxy said:

According to this post from the other thread

It appears one was repainted as early as 1964.

Nothing like a photo 

Hopefully IRM will eventually release B4 and B5 bogies in a 5’3” version as an accessory the same as the ones they are using on their forthcoming Mk2b/c’s . 

Perhaps Shawplan for wipers Phillip Shawplan - Fittings

My 203 was the same arrived today thanks IRM 

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

An announcement tomorrow would lead to the dissolution of many relationships!

Roses are red violets are blue if you buy any more railway models your wife is likely to divorce you.

24 minutes ago, connollystn said:

@exciecoachbuilder - Agree with your sentiment. My preference would certainly be the Park Royals, a passenger coach of that era (silver/green) is desired, especially, to haul behind my A30 and they operated up until the mid 1990s - don't recall any of the modern stock lasting that long.

The Park Royal coaches would be a great one to do as they span the period 1955 to 1990 with many liveries Silver , Green , Black and tan and IR B&T with two white stripes , also many variants Suburban, mainline , Guard/ brake, Snack car etc  

The age old adage applies “if something sounds to good to be true it probably is “ 

Looks fantastic .