hello guys , thanks for the replies , your knowledge never ceases to amaze me .JHB makes a good point that a scratch built bogie Cusack and 12 wheel diner might lookout of place beside such quality as Mayner's loco and brass 6 wheelers .but if I want to recreate the train in the photo there may be no choice .There are photos of those 2 coaches in the book and it seems I need to make time to revisit the IRRS archive and see if there are any drawings there.