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Ian had an amazing knowledge and seemed to be known throughout the IÉ system. I travelled on his tour as a passenger back in 2006, one of the best I've ever been on. I got to know him in more recent years, he offered his assistance towards our fledgling Táilte operations, knowing the niceties of railtours perhaps better than anyone, he would ensure that our 2600 set was on the platform well in advance so we weren't stressed with loading etc and tried to give us 'surprise' movements, such as routing our recent Eyre Lee Bird tour through the new platform 6 in Cork, wanting it to be the first railtour to pass through it. He'd give me calls while cycling home from the bus, often late at night, telling stories from his travels across the system. For a relatively young man, he had got to plenty of interesting places now vanished from the IÉ map such as New Ross, Kingscourt and Foynes via the weedspray train. He had also extensively travelled the Bus Éireann system. Sleep well Ian, you will be sorely missed, and thank you for all your help.
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In fairness, surely the tariff would still be charged regardless of courier? It's hardly the doing of Accurascale...
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great spot! I suspect your theory on scraping them together was the case.
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Waterford station relocation and flood protection works
Niles replied to Darrman's topic in What's happening on the network?
In fairness, I don't think many will miss the modern-ish building, @jhb171achill can confirm I believe the original was demolished in the 1960s? There are still some lovely parts of it though. -
Full story here: https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/moyexit-the-final-chapter
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A wee update on the latest loco to arrive at Downpatrick https://www.downrail.co.uk/rollingstock/a3r/
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Everyone deserves a special treat on their birthday. The Downpatrick & County Down Railway is celebrating its 40th on Saturday 2nd August, and to celebrate, we'll be using our restored Edwardian carriage set on services that day. This is a rare opportunity to travel on these beautifully restored carriages, two of which are original Belfast & County Down Railway vehicles. Trains will depart Downpatrick on this date at 13:00, 13:45 and 14:30, hauled by one our vintage diesel fleet. Book your tickets online now at https://www.downrail.co.uk/event/summer-trains/ (If you're attending our 40th Anniversary dinner later that evening, simply show us your dinner ticket and you can travel for free).
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An update on the restoration of GSWR 6 wheeler No.69 has been added to the DCDR website. This will be a lovely little vehicle to travel in once completed: https://www.downrail.co.uk/2025/07/restoration-update-gswr-carriage-69/
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Tickets available here, I know there's some from this parish going so should be a nice social event if you can make it https://www.downrail.co.uk/2025/07/40th-gala-dinner/ And if you're making a day of it, DCDR will be operating heritage services between Downpatrick and Inch Abbey earlier in the day.
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They had samples at the Clontarf Show, I think developed in conjunction with Alstom?
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Recommended books - 1960s to 1980s
Niles replied to west_clare_wanderer's question in Questions & Answers
Michael Baker did Irish Railways Past & Present and Irish Railways Past & Present: Dublin in the mid 1990s. they've been updated once or twice since. A nice selection of images during that period. He also did a Bradford Barton volume in the 70s (I got a copy as a child in the 90s, the 'new' stock mentioned in the book was the mk2ds of 1972!). I don't think they're too hard to come by on the second hand market. Colin Boocock's Irish Railways: 40 Years of change 1956-1996 is another 90s title with plenty of images from your period, and there's a bit of a narrative to it. Colm O'Callaghan's Irish Traction: Iarnród Éireann is a great volume, thought might be a little late for your period. As as been pointed out, past IRRS Journals and their Flickr page are a treasure throve. -
ITG locos move to Downpatrick from Moyasta
Niles replied to skinner75's topic in What's happening on the network?
Another 'first' in Irish preservation has just been achieved... https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/a-trio-of-bo-bos -
Another update on 124: https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/tests-continue-on-loco-124
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Heritage Railways in the Republic of Ireland
Niles replied to Celtic_transport's topic in General Chat
This thread reminds me of a visit to the West Somerset Railway (the longest standard gauge heritage line in these islands) a few years ago. I was chatting to some of the volunteers, and mentioned I was involved in Downpatrick. I asked how many volunteers the West Somerset had, I got the somewhat mournful response 'We used to have over 1,000, now it's only about 600'. Yes, 'only' 600... From experience in Downpatrick, even a small line takes a lot of volunteers and certainly in our case there's plenty of examples of volunteers 'double jobbing' (more often 'treble'). Generally speaking all board members will also be found grafting on the ground in some shape or form, the concept of lines having volunteers who are solely managerial is way beyond a luxury. Thus is the reality of heritage railway operation in Ireland, I know our friends at the various narrow gauge lines can tell a similar story. -
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this either.
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I've read varying sources suggesting that 802 (a)received the experimental livery in the late 40s and later was repainted into the regular green, (b) that she was painted in the regular green, then experimental, then back to regular, and (c) that we she was painted regular green and then experimental for the rest of existence. Doesn't answer your question at all I know. The 800s can be confounding. As iconic and well known as they are, there's actually quite a bit about them that doesn't seem clear, with a healthy dose of typical Irish yarns woven into the canon. That theory on 801 running with 802's tender is interesting, hard to tell but that photo does give the appearance of being different shade. Mind you, I recall from my RPSI days there were occasions when 461's tender appeared to be a slightly different shade to the loco itself, the simple reason being when stabled in Connolly yard it was easier to clean one end than the other while lighting up.. maybe something similar is going on here, it's hard to tell...
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Heritage Railways in the Republic of Ireland
Niles replied to Celtic_transport's topic in General Chat
A volunteer colleague undertook a study of this a few years ago, one taking was that those schemes that have been successful, and endured, in Ireland have been those that started small and developed out, e.g. Stradbally, Downpatrick, Dromod. Nice as they'd have been, schemes such as Shillelagh-Tinahely, Fenit-Tralee simply would have been too big to have been sustainable (I had a sight of a report which I believe @jhb171achill was involved in regarding the former, there were options for Shillelagh-Tinahely, Tinahely-Woodenbridge, the whole branch, or something to that affect. The figures were mouthwatering). I suppose Downpatrick, Dromod and Whitehead also have the benefit of being easily accessible by public transport, the former is right beside a bus station and the other two adjacent to mainline rail stations. I know for a fact all three of these have regular enthusiast volunteers not just from the locale but Dublin too. Local buy-in is another important factor, and it's worth bearing in mind that volunteers don't necessarily have to come from enthusiast ranks, I've known many 'non-enthusiast' people who just like getting involved in something local and have made excellent volunteers. -
ITG locos move to Downpatrick from Moyasta
Niles replied to skinner75's topic in What's happening on the network?
Might be of interest... https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/124-lives https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/190-roars-again -
Video of the start up here: https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/124-lives
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Tricky is the word. There some green highlights but I can't tell if that's just the reflection of the vegetation...
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Re: silver Park Royals, I was always under the impression none of them were, however, a while back I copped this Tom Davitt photo in the IRRS Flickr Archive (you'll need to be a member to view the link) The third vehicle from the loco appears to be a silver Park Royal. https://flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511615324/in/photolist-2pwBnJp-2pwDBh6-2pwCeH4-2pwD1Vj If only the 10 'mainline' ones were done as such then it would explain the lack of colour photos, probability wise. Another 'myth' was that Park Royals never carried the earlier dark green; while researching this for the DCDR restoration a few years ago we discovered that several were, likely the early suburban ones (in fact they've appeared on at least three IRRS journal covers over the years, hidden in plain sight). Interesting to see that Fry 'invented' a 51st member of the class, 1430.
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ITG locos move to Downpatrick from Moyasta
Niles replied to skinner75's topic in What's happening on the network?
152 arrived safely at Downpatrick over the weekend... https://www.irishtractiongroup.com/2025/o-christmas-tree-o-christmas-tree -
The DCDR website has been updated with a little bit of the history of this weekend's arrival, 152: https://www.downrail.co.uk/rollingstock/152/