Colin R

I have tried looking for those bogies, but I must have put them in a safe place, as I can't find them at the moment.

This is a most impressive build

Should I ever get around to it I would love to have both a class 52 and a class 60 if that does not muddy the waters Colin

If I recall they are a complete casting and you have to fit the axles through the sides at the same time as you fit the wheels and gearing, I am thinking about use Nigel Lawton parts instead small but powerful can motors and drive belts I have seen these in action and they are very quiet, you can see the details here:- http://www.nigellawton009.com/VeeTipper.html Colin

just in case anyone needed one Lidi's are sell hot glue guns not sure if they are selling them everywhere but just to give you guys the heads up. Colin

Hi Guys Yes Mike did stopped making the bogies and a lot of other things as well, But you can still buy the kits from Mike Savage at:- http://www.5andahalf.info/pdf/prices.pdf email him on m.savage80@ntlworld.com I am not sure how much they are now since I got mind a few year ago, due to not have anyone to make them up you have to buy your own motors, axles, gears, wheels etc to complete the kit, I only purchase the white metal castings hence why they are not yet made up. If you want to get all the other bits all at once you can contain Brian of Branchlines Brian Osborne on sales@branchlines.com Sadly they don't have a website which is up to date but they will supply data sheets of there range if you ask for them which is loco kits narrow gauge 00n3, motors, gear boxes and wheels on another and standard gauge brass coach kits which I think could be use as a basis to make up a few odd Irish prototypes of years gone by. my bits are in the shed so I will try and dig them out tomorrow. Colin

Thanks for the tips can you explain more about how you made the Jig? and what did you use and how did you go about making it I could do with one of them for all my kits, I have been buying all the bits to do all three of these in 00n3 I have three sets of White metal bogies, but it is suggested you use bigger size that scale wheels in them, I am not convinced about that, so I will be buying 9mm dia wheel sets as opposed to the 10.5mm size as suggested by the bogie manufacture.

Thank Wrenneire, that's about £35.00 over here, so that would be kiddies intro first train set price. time to avoid them like the Plague.

Not that I am interest (to modern for me) but what is a good price for them? or more to the point what will you guys pay for them just in case I see any at the up coming shows over the next few months. Colin

That is the one thank you for your help Colin

Sorry I think it was an old MGWR 2-4-0 Tender type and it was going to be released in two versions as built and as rebuilt at Inchicore, I think the kit was been developed in New Zealand? I hope this narrow is down a bit more. Regards Colin

Hi Guys On the old site there was a thread about a new 4mm scale Brass steam loco kit can any one tell me what if any up dates have happen since? Colin

Hi guys is it just me or has the site had a make over since my last visit? it looks good by the way

Hi Guys Not sure if you have come across this company before http://www.unitmodels.com/index.php?id_lang=1&id_category=3&controller=category&n=114 I suspect you don't want to end up doing the same stuff. Regards Colin

Thanks Tony that will help a great deal thanks

I guess that is what I will end up having to do. The details I do have don't match up with some of the photos I have. They make the whole building look to long and thin for it to look right in any of the photos, I have a feeling this is going to be one of just hope it look near enough builds.

While I can get a general size of each building from the details I have. It is so much harder to try and work out the size of such things as windows.

This reminded me of something which happen to me a few years ago as well, I was at a club meeting with a book about British & Irish narrow gauge railways and this one night one of the guys took an interest in my book and he asked if he could borrow it for a week, at the time I didn't mind, but about six months later I ask if he had finished with my book and he told me he didn't have it, he claimed to have left it in the club room for me to pick up, well I asked everyone and no had seen it so I put it down to experience and though I would try and get a replacement copy, sadly I could not find one anywhere. Moving on to about 10 years ago (about ten year on from the above) I was at a model railway exhibition which I help with the running during the day and on the clubs sales stand was the same book I had lost all those years before, so I went over to it only to have the biggest surprise of my life, it was my book with my name in it, I asked who brought it in but no one was sure, so I asked the treasurer if I could claim my book back which he agreed to and it now forms part of my book collection. I still have my suspicions who was behind it, but as I haven't seen this guy for a few years or so I can't exactly say for certain if he was behind returning it to the club all those years later. Colin R

That's great thanks Colin R

Hi all I appreciate that most of you guys model the old broad gauge, but I though I would give it a try anyway, I am looking for photos and details of all the buildings at the old Stranorlar Station and yard before it was turned into a school, I think I have most of the published books on the Donegal, but one of you guys might know another location for more details. I have sent an email to the Donegal heritage group to see if they have anything of use, I don't have the space to build a 4mm scale layout of this station (20ft long approx x 8ft wide plus fiddle yards)at present, but I look at it like this if I have all the information to hand now it will make building it that much easier when the time comes to do it. Colin R

I totally agree with you regarding exhibition layouts, a friend of mind built a station called Chelfham on the 2ft gauge Lynton and Barnstaple Railway in North Devon, you could not get a simpler layout, a passing loop and one siding and it is a fantastic model, boring as hell to operate at an exhibition, yet when it was working, there was always three or four deep just to watch the trains pass by. For me, my idea layout would be based on one of the American shunting puzzle designs, but it would incorporate a continuous run as well. I know when I was little there was nothing better that watching trains go pass at speed, either in real life or on a model railway. Why is it we always wanted it to crash? Good luck with Claremorris, if I had the room that would be one layout I would build as part of a team effort.

Building the track is not a problem, I have in the past built both points and track in a number of gauges, what I was thinking about was more of a time saver if you could find someone else to do it for you. Most layouts I see at exhibitions have a very simple design and consist of a run round loop with a number of sidings off of it, it is getting harder to find layouts that for want of a better reason are a bit more of challenge to operate or to view. To me, it would appear that some of the more complicated but interesting track layouts fail to get modelled. I also realise that over time track plans where modified to make them more simple and easier to maintain, one thing I have noticed with a few Irish track plans, is the use of a siding coming off the middle of a loop on one side and crossing the other track of the loop via a diamond crossing and then going on to serve a good shed behind the loop. Its these little quirks and curiosities which for some reason get missed out when a layout get modelled and would make a whole lot of difference to the character of the layout. Either that or I just happen to want to make my life difficult when it comes to modelling.

Thanks Tony, I was not aware of all the bits available via the Scale4 Society thanks for bring me up to date. On RMWeb I asked the same question and some one has offered to buy the gauges I am after which inmy case will be the curved gauge widening three point gauge and there is another I have asked him to get me as well, just need to wait for a reply and the cost of postage for them.

Hi Tony I spoke to the new owner of C&L Trackwork yesterday at an Exhibition and we both agreed that while a custom built 21mm gauge point might be say 25-35% more than an off the shelf Peco point, you just can't get that look any cheaper. To be fair this is one of the reasons why I have found it so hard to get started with 21mm gauge, I have been quoted silly money in the past for hand built point work, but if you can find someone who can make a decent point at a reasonable price then other factors need to come in to the equation, such as will it save me time? It is one less problem to consider, we are not all good at everything in modelling, sometimes it is good to get others involved with our projects. The guy at C&L who has just taken over, said that there are a lot of old computer files he has not looked at yet so they may be something in there, he appears to be very helpful and I guess it will be a two way development if he is to help us get 21mm gauge templates at some stage. He did suggest for the short term that we could buy his P4 point work kits and then adjust them to 21mm gauge. What we need now is someone to make 21mm gauge: roller gauges, back to back gauges and the tri gauge for curves as well and I am sure it will become much easier. While it is early day, I did find him very helpful.

Hi John I have the exact same problems no space and a bit of a butterfly span of attention, I do admire all those guys who can stick to getting one model and get it finished