Garfield Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Seen at York Road last Saturday: http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/21680457_6KfDSc#!i=1817619843&k=36VMsjM&lb=1&s=XL Wonder how much longer it'll be until we see them in service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 A very short looking rake Garfield do they not usually run 7 coaches in a rake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) A very short looking rake Garfield do they not usually run 7 coaches in a rake The addition of the generator van means they have to remove one coach from the rake... I think there may be issues with train lengths either at Connolly or Belfast Central. Edited May 1, 2012 by Garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 first time to see a pic of the jenny in a futt train-she looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 There's a first class coach missing out of that set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Not too many people traveling in first class perhaps these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hidden-agenda Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 When the DD,S were first introduced i could have sworn it was an eight coach train including the DVT am i right or wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 8 Vehicles clearly in this IE promo shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The original plan was for 7 coach rakes inc DVT but as popularity of the 'new' enterprise turned out to be greater than expected they were increased to 8 car sets. This was one of the reasons why the engines struggled so much with HEP. In recent years motorways improvements and NIR and IE getting pathetic path timings down to a fine art have eaten away at enterprise footfall so the sets have been brought back to 7 (I'm open to correction on all of the above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Stephen that's a cracker pic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I was on it recently when going from Belfast to Galway. I was in the buffet car and I saw he conductor's list of 1st class passengers which consisted of 7 people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Vincent, a recent enterprise set left Belfast for Dublin with 17 people on board, sadly that's not an unusual loading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) The original plan was for 7 coach rakes inc DVT but as popularity of the 'new' enterprise turned out to be greater than expected they were increased to 8 car sets. This was one of the reasons why the engines struggled so much with HEP. In recent years motorways improvements and NIR and IE getting pathetic path timings down to a fine art have eaten away at enterprise footfall so the sets have been brought back to 7 (I'm open to correction on all of the above) Actually, you're spot-on. The issues I referred to above would only have occurred with 8 coaches + generator van. There was originally a full spare Enterprise coach rake, but as demand grew they plucked coaches from that set and added them to the others, meaning there was only 4(?) spares, including the DVT. The current arrangement will make it easier to rotate coaches for refurbishment when the time comes (i.e. in the not-too-distant future). Edited May 1, 2012 by Garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books Cheers... must see if I can find it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books Wow! I've never seen an Enterprise north of York Road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...8btoWpzI-y7vVA Look at this picture here of a very short De Dietrich train in Connolly Sorry I couldn't get it bigger Edited May 1, 2012 by BosKonay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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