De Dietrich + Mk3 generator van test train

[Garfield]

Seen at York Road last Saturday:

 

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/21680457_6KfDSc#!i=1817619843&k=36VMsjM&lb=1&s=XL

 

Wonder how much longer it'll be until we see them in service?

[Flying Scotsman 4472]

A very short looking rake Garfield do they not usually run 7 coaches in a rake

[Garfield]

A very short looking rake Garfield do they not usually run 7 coaches in a rake

 

The addition of the generator van means they have to remove one coach from the rake... I think there may be issues with train lengths either at Connolly or Belfast Central.

Edited May 1, 2012 by Garfield

[heirflick]

first time to see a pic of the jenny in a futt train-she looks good!

[Retro Herbie]

There's a first class coach missing out of that set.

[BosKonay]

Not too many people traveling in first class perhaps these days!

[Guest hidden-agenda]

When the DD,S were first introduced i could have sworn it was an eight coach train including the DVT am i right or wrong?

[BosKonay]

 

8 Vehicles clearly in this IE promo shot...

[Retro Herbie]

The original plan was for 7 coach rakes inc DVT but as popularity of the 'new' enterprise turned out to be greater than expected they were increased to 8 car sets. This was one of the reasons why the engines struggled so much with HEP.

 

In recent years motorways improvements and NIR and IE getting pathetic path timings down to a fine art have eaten away at enterprise footfall so the sets have been brought back to 7

 

(I'm open to correction on all of the above)

[Retro Herbie]

Stephen that's a cracker pic!

[201bhoy]

I was on it recently when going from Belfast to Galway. I was in the buffet car and I saw he conductor's list of 1st class passengers which consisted of 7 people!

[Retro Herbie]

Vincent, a recent enterprise set left Belfast for Dublin with 17 people on board, sadly that's not an unusual loading

[Garfield]

The original plan was for 7 coach rakes inc DVT but as popularity of the 'new' enterprise turned out to be greater than expected they were increased to 8 car sets. This was one of the reasons why the engines struggled so much with HEP.

 

In recent years motorways improvements and NIR and IE getting pathetic path timings down to a fine art have eaten away at enterprise footfall so the sets have been brought back to 7

 

(I'm open to correction on all of the above)

 

Actually, you're spot-on. The issues I referred to above would only have occurred with 8 coaches + generator van.

 

There was originally a full spare Enterprise coach rake, but as demand grew they plucked coaches from that set and added them to the others, meaning there was only 4(?) spares, including the DVT.

 

The current arrangement will make it easier to rotate coaches for refurbishment when the time comes (i.e. in the not-too-distant future).

Edited May 1, 2012 by Garfield

[Retro Herbie]

Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books

[Garfield]

Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books

 

Cheers... must see if I can find it!

[201bhoy]

Garfield there's a pic knocking about the web of the four remaining spare coaches doing a special on the bleech green line. Think it was in one of the colourpoint books

 

Wow! I've never seen an Enterprise north of York Road!

[201bhoy]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...8btoWpzI-y7vVA

Look at this picture here of a very short De Dietrich train in Connolly

 

Sorry I couldn't get it bigger

Edited May 1, 2012 by BosKonay