Maam Road/Bóthar an Mháma

[Irishrailwayman]

Some of you may know of my GWR UK outline O gauge layout "Buffers Lock". I have detailed the story of it's build and exhibition life elsewhere on irm.com (see: Buffers Lock). Basically, this is a 16.5 feet long exhibition layout with a scenic area of 8.5 feet by 26.5 inches. Two four foot long fiddle-yards (three lines each) feed trains from either end allowing through trains to be run. One fiddle-yard is a traverser and the other is a train turntable. Originally the electrical set up was DCC to run trains and the point motors/semaphore signals. The "brick" outline station building, signal box, goods shed and other fittings are all typical of GWR practice. The backscene is of a UK village in the middle distance (Ross-on-Wye I believe).

I have now started a project to develop the layout to allow for alternating use as an Irish outline layout. To accomodate a variety of rolling stock that might become available, I have rewired the layout to be easily changed from DCC to DC use with Double-Pole Double-Throw switches. DCC control will continue to use the Roco/Fleischmann's Z21 system while DC power is now supplied by a Morley Controller Vanguard Zero One unit delivering 2.5 Amps per track. In either mode the signals and point motors will be controlled by DCC.

In time, I am working to have suitable alternate buildings developed with a "stone" outline matching actual Irish prototypes. These will fit directly in place of the GWR outline buildings when running in irish outline mode. CK Prints (Enda Byrne) has developed Irish outline brake vans in flying snail grey and roundal brown versions. Enda plans to produce other Irish outline wagons in time including beet and other wagons. Alphagraphix have a range of MGWR outline locomotives and passenger carriages available in metal kits which are worth considering. Once the layout is further developed, I plan to invite other modellers to run their Irish O gauge rolling stock on this layout perhaps attending exhibitions together as a joint venture.

The alternate layout has been named "Maam Road" translated in Irish to "Bóthar an Mháma" (which means the road to the mountain pass). Many rural irish railways had stations some distance from the towns they served and so had the "road" designation. My idea is to situate the layout somewhere in the West of Ireland within a wild mountain landscape similar to those the Clifden or Achill lines ran through. There was a station at Maam Cross/An Teach Dóite but my layout is not intended as a copy of that station.

I have mounted a suitable backscene on new boards (to alternate with the existing "Buffers Lock" backscene). I attach a few photos to show what the scene looks like without buildings.

[Patrick Davey]

Excellent!!!  Great plan!

[David Holman]

Good way to increase a layout's usefulness. Should I ask how you are going to widen the track?

[Irishrailwayman]

2 hours ago, David Holman said:

Good way to increase a layout's usefulness. Should I ask how you are going to widen the track?

Hi David, good question - but for my own sanity I will stick with the (incorrect) Peco track for now! I am looking at the Alphagraphix brass kits for MGWR locos (G2 and J18/19) and 6-wheel carriages. I hope to begin kit building/soldering soon with help from a more experienced friend - are these kits suitable for a beginner?

[Galteemore]

Wouldn’t start with a tender loco like a J18 or G2. The J26 is better. Best option of all is probably to start with a Jim McGeown - Connoisseur Models - beginner’s 0-4-0T which will teach you all you need to know. The loco can be made to look subtly Irish! As a bare minimum I’d go on Jim’s site and read the instructions for his beginner loco. That will show you what’s involved..see this pdf 0 Gauge Starter Loco pdf print off.pdf

Edited 12 hours ago by Galteemore

[jhb171achill]

Delighted to hear of this!

If modelling a line which would have been operated like the Achill branch, it's a diet entirely of 4.4.0 D16s 1903-1925, an a mix of these and "foreign" 4.4.0s after that. The odd G2 2.4.0 crept in there too. In its very earliest period (1895-1901) the G2 2.4.0s (MGWR "D" class) and also their "E" class (GSR J26) 0.6.0T. 

The Clifden line probably had the least variety of motive power of any line in steam days; in early days the 2.4.0s, but quite quickly replaced by J18 0.6.0s, which would be the sole power on the line after that. 

However, imagine this; your line is actually a GSWR one, from maybe Tuam or ballyglunin, heading through Headford and Cong to the other end of the Maam Valley. That gives you an excuse to use GSWR stock, which was more varied and plentiful!

Bearing in mind Galteemore's comments about four-wheeled locos and their layout-wandering quirks, and the availability of the Hattons 6-wheelers (which are close to a GSWR design) and 00 Works J15s, as well as Provincial Leslie's GSWR brake vans, perhaps a scenario like this might be an idea?

As it happens, this is precisely what's behind my own Dugort Harbour. There is a real Dugort - it's a small village on the north side of Achill Island, and at one stage there was a vague proposal to extend the Achill branch across Achill Sound (on what would have been quite a spectacular bridge over a narrow bit of sea containing a quite vicious sea current). It was my original intention that the layout was to be based on this extension as it might have been.

With no JM Design 2.4.0 G2 as yet on the scene at that time (as I would have bought 3 or 4!) but various British 0.6.0s available which I could butcher into a vague equivalent of a J15, I thought I'd switch it to West Kerry, wher you'd lines like Valentia and Kenmare and Newmarket which rarely saw anything but J15s. I had also considered a Tuam - Headford or Tuam - Cong branch. Had such a thing been built, it would have been originall WLWR, then GSWR.

So several interesting scenarios there. I'm a great fan of both detailed models of actual locations and "might-have-beens".

Wandering off-topic, a thing I am more adept at than actually doing anything about it, two other "might-have-beens" which i had seriously considered were both based on the Achill line; in one, it survives into the diesel era with B141s on all trains; in another it was nrrow gauge, survives to the modern era, and becomes a happoy stamping ground for F class diesels, a transferred Dingle 6T after the C&L closed, Walker railcars and so on..........

[Irishrailwayman]

6 hours ago, Galteemore said:

Wouldn’t start with a tender loco like a J18 or G2. The J26 is better. Best option of all is probably to start with a Jim McGeown - Connoisseur Models - beginner’s 0-4-0T which will teach you all you need to know. The loco can be made to look subtly Irish! As a bare minimum I’d go on Jim’s site and read the instructions for his beginner loco. That will show you what’s involved..see this pdf 0 Gauge Starter Loco pdf print off.pdf

Thanks Galteemore that's very helpful. I presume that the Alphagraphix 6 wheel coaches would be a bit simpler?

Edited 8 hours ago by Irishrailwayman

[Galteemore]

8 minutes ago, Irishrailwayman said:

Thanks Galteemore that's very helpful. I presume that the Alphagraphix 6 wheel coaches would be a bit simpler?

They would, although there is a little bit of brass shaping to be done. Jim’s loco instructions will give you an idea of what’s involved in making a kit - you can also check out his 6w coach instructions which have much in common with Roger’s kits. 

[Irishrailwayman]

3 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Delighted to hear of this!

If modelling a line which would have been operated like the Achill branch, it's a diet entirely of 4.4.0 D16s 1903-1925, an a mix of these and "foreign" 4.4.0s after that. The odd G2 2.4.0 crept in there too. In its very earliest period (1895-1901) the G2 2.4.0s (MGWR "D" class) and also their "E" class (GSR J26) 0.6.0T. 

The Clifden line probably had the least variety of motive power of any line in steam days; in early days the 2.4.0s, but quite quickly replaced by J18 0.6.0s, which would be the sole power on the line after that. 

However, imagine this; your line is actually a GSWR one, from maybe Tuam or ballyglunin, heading through Headford and Cong to the other end of the Maam Valley. That gives you an excuse to use GSWR stock, which was more varied and plentiful!

Bearing in mind Galteemore's comments about four-wheeled locos and their layout-wandering quirks, and the availability of the Hattons 6-wheelers (which are close to a GSWR design) and 00 Works J15s, as well as Provincial Leslie's GSWR brake vans, perhaps a scenario like this might be an idea?

As it happens, this is precisely what's behind my own Dugort Harbour. There is a real Dugort - it's a small village on the north side of Achill Island, and at one stage there was a vague proposal to extend the Achill branch across Achill Sound (on what would have been quite a spectacular bridge over a narrow bit of sea containing a quite vicious sea current). It was my original intention that the layout was to be based on this extension as it might have been.

With no JM Design 2.4.0 G2 as yet on the scene at that time (as I would have bought 3 or 4!) but various British 0.6.0s available which I could butcher into a vague equivalent of a J15, I thought I'd switch it to West Kerry, wher you'd lines like Valentia and Kenmare and Newmarket which rarely saw anything but J15s. I had also considered a Tuam - Headford or Tuam - Cong branch. Had such a thing been built, it would have been originall WLWR, then GSWR.

So several interesting scenarios there. I'm a great fan of both detailed models of actual locations and "might-have-beens".

Wandering off-topic, a thing I am more adept at than actually doing anything about it, two other "might-have-beens" which i had seriously considered were both based on the Achill line; in one, it survives into the diesel era with B141s on all trains; in another it was nrrow gauge, survives to the modern era, and becomes a happoy stamping ground for F class diesels, a transferred Dingle 6T after the C&L closed, Walker railcars and so on..........

Thanks JHB and glad you like the concept. The challenge working in Irish outline O gauge is of course absence of RTR or kits. The layout can encompass many "might have beens" to accomodate whatever stock comes to hand.