Train Formations - CIÉ/IR/IÉ and NIR

[josefstadt]

Following on from an earlier post (British Outline Modelling / Hattons train formation guides / August 2) here are some further examples of train formations on the CIÉ/IR/IÉ and NIR systems. They cover the period from the early 1970s until the early 2000s. I have included the examples from the original post - they are marked with the  ¶ symbol:

21/06/1971	??:?? Wexford - Dublin (Night Goods)	A44R + 16469 + 17929 + 26010 + 19138 + 16364 + 12355 + 12112 + 16721 + 19880 + 19036 + 17031 + 18932 + 17948 + 633M + 16760 + 23685.
26/10/1975	08:20 Dublin Connolly - Galway	B146 + 2972 + 3183TL + 2415TL + 1555TL + 1505TL + 1914TL + 2425TL + 2578.
26/10/1975	??:?? Attymon Junction - Loughrea	B153 + 1904 + 1534.
31/12/1975	Inchicore - Gorey (Crane Special to Clough Bridge derailment)	049 + 244 (Running Wagon) + 295A (35T Steam Crane) + 13848 (Open Wagon) + 23636 (20T Brake Van)
22/08/1976	09:00 Dublin Heuston - Tralee	186+B142 + 3177TL + 1546TL + 2408TL + 1529TL + 1526TL + 1931TL + 1494 + 1929TL + 1473 + 1455 + 1466.
22/08/1976	??:?? Dublin Heuston - Tralee	042 + 2578 + 5602 + 5157 + 5401 + 5202 + 5213 + 5218 + 5155.
30/10/1976	13:05 Dublin Connolly - Wicklow Murrough (final passenger service)	220 + 6201 + 6321 + 6327 + 6329 + 6111.
02/11/1976	Bray - Inchicore (Wagon transfer)	131+123 + 27772 + 27779 + 27789 + 27784 + 27790.
07/02/1977	19:30 Bray - Dublin Connolly	6111 + 6329 + 6327 + 6321 + 6201 + 205.
25/01/1977	??:?? Bray - Inchicore (Wagon transfer)	B159 + 27782 + 27778 + 23509 (20t Brake Van).
26/02/1977	15:37 Bray - Dundalk (Old AEC Railcars)	205 + 2633 + 2654 + 2651 + 2603 + 23568 (20t Brake Van).
28/02/1977	19:00 Wicklow - Dublin Connolly	207 + 3158 + 1496 + 1340 + 1471 + 1424 + 1404 + 1369.
07/03/1977	19:00 Wicklow - Dublin Connolly	188 + 3120 + 1349 + 1339 + 1373 + 1441 + 1381 + 1434.
13/04/1977	19:00 Wicklow - Dublin Connolly	202 + 1403 + 1443 + 1381 + 1433 + 1463 + 3126.
18/04/1977	19:00 Wicklow - Dublin Connolly	185 + 1449 + 1461 + 1340 + 1402 + 1357 + 1386 + 3153.
21/08/1977	09:50 Dublin Heuston - Galway	087 + 1507TL + 1471 + 1466 + 1488 + 1909 + 2413 + 1505TL + 1530TL + 1535TL + 3189TL.
13/05/1978	07:55 Dublin Connolly - Foynes (IRRS Special)	150+186 + 3188 + 1539 + 2402 + 1543 + 1551 + 1532 + 1514 + 2559.
30/07/1978 ¶	Up Wexford Cement (empty)	054 + 14 4-wheel pallet cement wagons (28001 series).
31/07/1978 ¶	Fertiliser (empty)	002 + 10 bogie fertiliser wagons (35001 series).
01/08/1978 ¶	09:40 Bray - Thomastown (Special)	085 + 3216TL + 1501TL + 1369 + 1384 + 1378 + 1465 + 2428 + 1476 + 1360 + 1474 + 1487 + 1383 + 2569.
04/08/1978 ¶	08:45 Dublin Heuston - Tralee	082 + 3187TL + 1150TL + 2402TL + 1504TL + 1542TL + 1422TL + 1505TL + 1510TL + 1917TL.
04/08/1978 ¶	17:10 Tralee - Dublin Heuston	011 + 1929TL + 2419 + 1545TL + 1528TL + 1425TL + 3189TL.
06/08/1978 ¶	11:00 Dublin Heuston - Waterford (deferred 10:30 service)	088 + 1366 + 1379 + 1430 + 1416 + 1461 + 3209TL.
21/08/1978 ¶	13:20 Lisburn - Bangor	731 + 765 + 89.
22/08/1978 ¶	Crane Special (to remove water tank in loco yard at Bray	161 + 627A + 626A + 295A + 12649 + 23686.
23/09/1978	07:20 Bray - Claremorris (Knock Special)	187+189 + 1935 + RS23 + 1488 + 2428 + 1434 + 1494 + 1503 + 1472 + 1501TL + 1512TL + 1500TL + 3158TL.
23/09/1978	16:20 Bray - Dublin Connolly (RPSI Special)	186 (Steam) + 1461 + 1449 + 1390 + 1404 + 3204TL.
12/05/1979 ¶	07:55 Dublin Connolly - New Ross (IRRS Special)	186+155 + 2552 + 1454 + 2403 + 1485 + 1358 + 1470 + 1484 + 3212TL. Also, locos 134+129
18/08/1979 ¶	08:00 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central	017 + 1925 + 2420 + 1518 + 1510 + 1533 + 1924 + 1433.
05/12/1979	08:09 Dublin Connolly - Rosslare Harbour	085 + 3182 + 1504 + 1533 + 2424 + 1913.
12/06/1982	06:59 Bray - Howth	218 + 3163TL + 1407TL + 1478 + 1632.
12/06/1982	11:40 Belfast York Rd - Lisburn (IRRS Special)	703 +75 River Maine.
15/03/1986 ¶	08:00 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central	085 + 5602 + 5102 + 5405 +5236 + 5203 + 5213.
22/03/1986 ¶	18:00 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly	082 + 5214 + 5156 + 5157 + 5213 + 5203 + 5236 + 5405 + 5102 + 5602.
15/07/2006	08:10 Dublin Heuston - Ballina (RPSI Special)	4 (Steam) + 3189TL + 1550TL + 1507TL + 1508TL + 1532TL + 1529TL* + 1539TL*. * RPSI owned carriages
15/07/2006	18:00 Ballina - Manulla Junction	112 + 1532TL + 1508TL + 1507TL + 1550TL + 3189TL

 

[K801]

Hi Josefstadt,

great stuff, any idea what the Sunday evening Waterford to Dublin Houston 14 piece would of been made up of?

If I remember right,  it was an 071 class + GSV + MK2D EGV + 11 MK2Ds + MK2D EGV 

You could hear the 071 all the way to nearly Thomastown or a clear night!

[josefstadt]

Hi K801, I haven't found any notes to give me a conclusive answer to your question. I'll keep digging and also put out feelers to see if anyone else has an answer. What era are you talking about?

[K801]

Thanks.  it was the early 90s, used to go out late on a Sunday evening, around 6pm

[DiveController]

On 12/12/2019 at 5:56 AM, K801 said:

the Sunday evening Waterford to Dublin Houston 14 piece would of been made up of?

If I remember right,  it was an 071 class + GSV + MK2D EGV + 11 MK2Ds + MK2D EGV 

A GSV and 2x Mk EGV?

[K801]

Just guessing but I think the GSV was just extra capacity for carrying mail and I nearly bet the rest of the train was two Mk2 sets combined. Definitely was a 14 piece train thou!

 

[ttc0169]

On 12/11/2019 at 11:44 PM, josefstadt said:

15/07/2006

 

18:00 Ballina - Manulla Junction

 

112 + 1532TL + 1508TL + 1507TL + 1550TL + 3189TL

I remember that day very well I worked as the train guard on that particular day....it was a warm and sunny and it was the first time that bar coach 1508 worked the Ballina branch train,

Thanks for posting Stephen- useful information.

[DiveController]

Oh, yes K801. I understand you now. Did the MK2 EGVs have any luggage capacity? The old 4 wheeler heating vans did and I'm pretty sure that most GSVs did.

[hexagon789]

On 12/13/2019 at 12:21 PM, K801 said:

Thanks.  it was the early 90s, used to go out late on a Sunday evening, around 6pm

 

If it was the early 1990s, then the other Mk2D would likely have been any old mix as Hueston sets seemed quite randomly formed after the Mk3s were introduced and cascaded the Mk2Ds down the pecking order. The two EGV were needed for long sets, I think one could power up to 11 then for 12 or 13 they'd have two EGV, the jumpers being disconnected between the two middle vehicles so each Generator Van powered half the coaches.