jhb171achill Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, josefstadt said: Sorry jhb but that's not correct. There were five Cravens 1st Class carriages, 1147 - 1151. They were fitted with proper 1st class seating, not 'simply by throwing antimacassars over the seat backs'! 1147 - ex Standard 1551 - converted 1969 - 37 seats - reverted to 1551 06/72 1148 - ex Standard 1547 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - reverted to 1547 12/74 1149 - ex Standard 1558 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - increased to 40 seats in 1981 - reverted to 1558 12/84 1150 - ex Standard 1548 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - increased to 40 seats in 1981 - reverted to 1548 10/84 1151 - ex Standard 1547 - converted 1980 - 40 seats - reverted to 1547 03/85 Didn’t know there were five, josefstadf; I stand corrected. However, at least one was described at the time as being laid out internally as I mentioned…. any internal pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Didn’t know there were five, josefstadf; I stand corrected. However, at least one was described at the time as being laid out internally as I mentioned…. any internal pics? http://rcts.zenfolio.com/coaching-stock/irish-railways-cie/eA25CE8DE picture from RCTS website 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Interesting - love the older wooden carriages in that set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, josefstadt said: Sorry jhb but that's not correct. There were five Cravens 1st Class carriages, 1147 - 1151. They were fitted with proper 1st class seating, not 'simply by throwing antimacassars over the seat backs'! 1147 - ex Standard 1551 - converted 1969 - 37 seats - reverted to 1551 06/72 1148 - ex Standard 1547 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - reverted to 1547 12/74 1149 - ex Standard 1558 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - increased to 40 seats in 1981 - reverted to 1558 12/84 1150 - ex Standard 1548 - converted 1970 - 37 seats - increased to 40 seats in 1981 - reverted to 1548 10/84 1151 - ex Standard 1547 - converted 1980 - 40 seats - reverted to 1547 03/85 I think we might need a new thread but anyway.... it seems 1547 was converted back and and forth to 1st class twice (1148 in the 70s and 1151 in the 80s)? 1150 in 1983 (prior to its reversion to 1548 in 1984 ((c) Jeremy Chapter on Flickr) certainly seems to have the 2+1 seating and curtains The seating arrangement on my MM 1149TL certainly seems correct, whatever about the curtains. Edited August 5, 2021 by DiveController 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, DiveController said: I think we might need a new thread but anyway.... it seems 1547 was converted back and and forth to 1st class twice (1148 in the 70s and 1151 in the 80s)? 1150 in 1983 (prior to its reversion to 1548 in 1984 ((c) Jeremy Chapter on Flickr) certainly seems to have the 2+1 seating and curtains The seating arrangement on my MM 1149TL certainly seems correct, whatever about the curtains. And the seats were very similiar to the the ones in the BR Mk2d 1st Edited August 6, 2021 by flange lubricator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Good info, folks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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