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  1. Hi Ken, Yes please, any details would be useful. Thanks Angus
  2. Angus

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    Hi Ken, I've just been asking about a gas tank that appears on a couple of photos at Sligo over on my thread about Sligo station and was pointed here. The tank wagon in question is different to yours but I would guess similar in size, what diameter did you establish the tank to be? Thanks in advance. Angus
  3. Thanks Eoin, I will do, it looks like a different wagon (no end timbers and straining wires) but probably similar dimensions.
  4. Thanks both, I did wonder if that's what it was, it looks quite antiquated. Something else to add to the list to model. I doubt any drawing exist though so it will need to be scaled from photos.
  5. Having conquered to locomotive roster I am now looking into the carriages, One question before I delve into that though, whilst looking at the photos of SLNCR passenger stock I came across this picture on the HMRS web site. https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs/tri-composite-bogie-coach-no-10.html My question isn't about the carriage but the tank wagon next to it. It is clearly a CIE vehicle but the tank seems very narrow in diameter. Any ideas what this might be for (....or is Guiness really that dense!) ?
  6. hi Brack, No thread clogging here, all useful information. I'll watch developments with interest, however slow. We are only playing with trains after all, there are other demands on our time!
  7. Thanks Brack, That is helpful, previously the preview photos were of such a low quality the dimensions could not be read once blown up on screen. These drawings are for the Large Tanks (Sir Henry, Enniskillen & Lough Gill) rather then the earlier Small Tanks (Fermanagh, Leitrim, Lurganboy, Lissadell and Hazelwood ) which I am starting with. If you do produce a 3d print version I would be interested in one in 1:152 scale (Body only). I suspect if you can crack getting an easy to build chassis sorted in 4mm scale you will have a queue at your door. Your models on the website are superb by the way!
  8. Hi Mark, If you have code 55 in stock I would use that. It is more widely available. The difference between code 55 and 60 is negligible ( 5 thou) so 1/8th (0.125) of millimetre in height, we are getting near the limits of perception here!
  9. Hi 2996 Victor, I've just got to appendix 3 in The Baronial Lines of the MGWR It states that 79lb rail was used from new spiked to half round sleepers at 1,940 to the mile for straight track. I would guess the sleeper spacing equates to 3ft centres with a slight narrowing at track joints. In the past I have compared LNWR 85lb and 95lb rail to code 124 in 7mms scale. The code 124 fell almost exactly in between so equivalent on 90lb rail This equates to about code 60 in 4mm for 79lb rail. I think code 60 flat bottomed rail is available from the 3mm scale association but you have to be a member. Code 55 flat bottomed is widely available as it used by U.S. N scale modellers The lines were not relaid until the 1920s with 23 and 26ft lengths of 80lb rail. My guess is the original rail length would be similar.
  10. Great progress there David, looking forward to seeing the J19 take shape. Is there a choice of cab?
  11. Hi David, a second vote here for Archers rivets https://www.archertransfers.com/SurfaceDetailsNscale.html They can be ordered direct from the USA and service is normally prompt. I have used them to back date the cab of a 7mm Minerva Manning Wardle, they are easy to use can come in a selection of "gap" sizes. Don't be tempted by the cheaper Micromark equivalent, I spent hours cursing my decision to save a few pennies, pale imitations I'm afraid.
  12. I had a play around with the backscene for the layout today. The original intention was the layout would be viewed from the rear of the station with the station building, goods shed and signal box all acting as view blockers for the fiddle yard exits. This works (apologies for the poor photos the sun was coming in the window behind) This has the disadvantage of not being able to see the wheels of any stock as the platforms prevent this. Up to now I have been presenting the layout in the more traditional front view. Obviously here there is no view blocker for the fiddle yard exits from the mainline, there is also a bank in front of the station that might look a bit odd in this view. Still not convinced which is better though, any opinions out there? The mock up of the station building is scaled from various photos, it looks way too tall but I've double checked the measurements, if the is an error it is only a mm or so. I'll need to draw on the windows and dividing line between the stone lower and rendered upper floor to see if breaking up the surface change the appearance.
  13. The Window shape and door handles would suggest an ex-MGWR, and ex 6W 5 compartment 3rd as this drawing kindly post by Mayner:- I'm not sure about the apparent panelling above the windows and doors though.
  14. Hi David, It has taken me a shade under 4 hours to get to this stage, albeit I bought the print rather than design it myself. If you factor the CADing up then I suspect this would stretch to a couple of days depending on your CAD skills. That said, if you had the CAD file other print options open up to you that have less cleaning up work but the printing is slower and not suited to any kind of batch production.
  15. After about three hours of careful sanding last night, mostly using a toothpick which was surprisingly effective, I was left with this Whilst not perfect it is a lot better than when it arrived. After re-scribing the doors and a blast of primer: All in all I'm fairly happy. I might have a last go at smoothing out if the mood takes me. Please bare in mind the carriage is 2mm scale so reproduced here at lest a couple of times bigger than actual.
  16. Lovely model David, what did you base the plans on if you don't mind me asking? Is this another Alphagraphix card base converted into plastic or do you have the source drawing?
  17. Thanks Galteemore, I've just been searching for the volume in question, it might be heresy but I've always been put off by locomotive preformance writing. O.S Nock seems to drone on in most of his books in quite a turgid manner on this. I'll give Ahrons a try having discovered him the author of the phrase "better a dead mackerel on the North Western than a first class passenger on the Brighton line" his narrative should be more entertaining!
  18. Hi Georgeconna, Thanks for your interest. The control car is a BE2 as used in the original SS class dirigibles in 1916. The control car is a white metal kit adapted to represent control car modifications. The remainder is scratch built. The layout has been documented over on RMweb: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/109742-rnas-glencruitten-relocating-lenabo/
  19. Hi Andy, I feel your pain (or will do when I start the sanding process). I have bought a couple of things from Shapeways so knew what to expect. As there is no etched brass kit for the MGWR carriages and the shape of the brake 3rd is relatively complex I reasoned starting with the 3D print would be quicker than scratch building.
  20. Thanks Galteemore, It'll be a slow growth, I want to finish the carriages first. In between times I will be cutting components to add the the box, tanks sides, cabs etc. That way when I start in anger it should come together quickly, always assuming I've cut the parts the right size to start with (not always gauranteed!)
  21. Thanks Murrayec, I know you should not model of a model but I can only assume SSM had some provenance for those tanks when designing the kit. I was going to use the LNWR design for their 30" 1' 6 wheelers as there is some nice detailed plans in the LNWR society's book on the carriages. These plans show a pair of tanks 9' long and 13" diameter mounted over the centre axle, so clearly would have been wrong for the GS&WR.
  22. Its getting on for two weeks since I posted anything and things have been progressing slowly. I bought some springs and axle boxes that duly arrived and were fitted. The handrails on the body are slow getting installed with just the door grabs, handle and lower hinges to fit. I also need to build a jig to hold the lower footboards and the solebar in line whilst I solder in the supports, I did have a go free hand but the failure was inevitable! I'm sure I've got a stock of gas light tops somewhere, but they are evading me at present. As Etched Pixels is shut for the lockdown I ordered a 100 from their Shapeways shop. These should keep me in stock for a while, in fairness I do have a stash of British pre-grouping carriages in the gloat box to build so can find a home for them. With these lamp tops installed the replacement roof is nearly finished. I just need to add the gas pipes in some 0.1mm wire once the roof is fitted. As I was placing an order with Shapeways I also took the plunge and bought the MGWR brake 3rd carraige that has been the subject of some discussion in another topic on this site. Buying it lessened the pain of Shapeways postage costs. As it arrived:- In this form the plastic is quite soft and there is still some of the support wax present. Following advice of others (I had done this before) I scrubbed the surface with a toothbrush and washing up liquid before dunking the body in a bath of white spirit for an hour. Left overnight the body turns white. It is now quite hard and easier to sand. You can also see the surface clearly to work on. The body appears dimensionally correct and captures the lines of the carriage well the buffers seem a bit over scale (a scale 18" across the face) but easily replaced with some turned ones from N-Brass. As I feared though the surface striation is quite bad. Without care I'll be losing a lot of the side detail. The doors will need re-scribing at the very least. Please bare in mind this is 2mm scale, in larger scale the striation will appear less worse. I had planned just to use the body and fit this to a Worsley Works brass chassis (as provided for the GSWR 6 wheelers) with the wheelbase lengthened to replicate the MGWR's 10' wheelbase. Now I've got the print I think rigid axles in the front and rear with a lightly sprung middle axle with some sideways float will be simple to install and work. In other news I've started the Lurganboy box. I always set up a box for long builds that I can add components to as I purchase them and store parts as they are made. Wheels, motor, gears (1:38 although I might replace these with 1:30 on account of the small wheels), buffers, brakes, handrail nobs all in box so far. I've also cut the chassis blanks (0.7mm phosphor bronze), the buffer beams, boiler and smokebox ring, as metal has been cut I suppose I have, in all reality, started the build.
  23. Interesting to see that after a decade and a half the GS&WR pass book still hasn't been emptied!
  24. Hi Galteemore, That would tie in as the tanks were 7'6" across. Thanks. Thanks jhb171achill, I was aware of that particular trap, unfortunately information from the early thirties is not so readily available as later periods (which makes the period the more interesting). If there is any direct evidence available then I will be guided by that, if not I'll default to the early standard which I think was the red (I'll check the books this evening).
  25. The build of the GS&WR six wheeled composite is progress nicely (documented over on my Dromahair topic) so I must turn my thoughts to the first of the locos to be built. Rolling stock alone is not much use! I had always intended this first build to be one of the SLNCR small tanks and for some reason "Lurganboy" appealed. There are a couple of nice pictures of her over on the transportsofdelight website It is not clear when the SLNCR removed the lettering from the tank sides. The photo of the wreak of sister engine Hazelwood , derailed during the civil war, shows the lettering in use during the early to mid-twenties. Unfortunately the photos above are undated. The is another photo in Neil Sprinks's illustrated history of the SLNCR of sister engine Fermanagh moving across the facing crossover at Ballysodare, a movement it would only have done after the rationalisation of the track layout at Carrignagat Junction that enabled the removal of the signal box in September 1930. In this photo Fermanagh still has the lettering on her tanks, so edging into the time period I am modelling. I'm still undecided on the lettering but have plenty of time to make my mind up! I do have a question, I have a GA drawing from the Beyer Peacock archive that I am converting into 2mm scale dimensions to start cutting components in advance of starting the build in earnest. The drawing has side elevation and top section only which provides most of the key dimensions. However, I don't have a dimension for the cab width and cannot find a clear photo showing the relationship of the cab edge and the tanks to estimate the distance. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance!
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