Glenderg

He also has the roof of the weedspray coach on the wrong way round!

Weshtys flat wagons coming soon, paddy dropping super standard mk2's shortly, and 201's shortly after, not to mention mayners goodies. Gawd man, bargains reduce the wallet contents for useful stuff!

stinks of repro. The Art Deco shading doesn't belong on an 1888 plate. Plus is too clean/tidy.

CIE broken wheel roundel H vans/goods vans in bauxite and light grey. Or RTR Turfburner RTR double beet wagons 21mm setrack and points Nah, who'd want that crap. I'll go with the H van theory.

Sorry Mike - only one I could find that shows an approximation of what's beneath. and

Mayner of this parish is yer man, with a 4 wheeled van... http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/2639-Tin-and-Hooded-Vans

Cheers lads - heres the photo I was talking about. You can barely make out the stencil of the flying snail on the upper left, and "20 TON BRAKE" to the right.

Ah here popeye, that's class. The j-hangers on the pallet wagon - explain please, iVe been fighting them for some time. They make it so irish. R.

They did run with the snail totem but only rated as 20 tonners - even though the body is identical to the 30 tonner, would love to know the genesis of these- without the vac brake text. Undergear appears to be naked, but you'd never notice in fairness. The long steps tend to obliterate that view. Mid build - please forgive the unfinished look. The totem was on the upper left panel, and the "20 ton brake" text on the upper right with the number stencilled on the lower right hand panel. Works' stencil tests seems not to be present. I have a few photos from the O'Dea collection showing same with date - don't have them on the tablet here but will post tomorrow from the big rig. Grey and black for the centre panel is an option for early running - late 70,s. Lemme dig through a few snaps and see if any capture the undercarraige. R.

I fear Heirflick may have something to say about this....

Paint was supplied by the likes of Hendersons before technical specifications and BS standards were even heard of, so the manufacturer just had to colour match what was required. There were no long term tests done, UV exposure, or the like so paint got desaturated and broken on semaphore arms etc. It was only when the likes of 3M started supplying IR/IE with the panels on the rear of coaches, and specifications complied with EEC(at the time) and BS standards that paint had more colour fast properties.

Said well. Hic.

Loco is pointing almost due south, due to the suns position time of day etc. which tallies with Snappers thinking.

I took these about 12'ish years ago - apologies for the fuzz in some, crappy nikon first generation digital camera...pfff. Hope they are of some help. http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/album.php?albumid=88 http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/album.php?albumid=89 Richie.