Glenderg

A spotters charter? 

Defo, will take two please. Richie. 

The mesh doors were a weight saving device, initially, but...if you see the weird CIE logo tack welded onto to the door? It was never a prototype, or a test, it was a full on design destined to work. 

Problem was that forklifts and humans bumped into these mesh doors all the time, and within a few weeks they were wrecked and would get gummed up in the slotted door system. Same with the chains that were used as a handrail. These were ditched after a short time too. They didn't even start with the bars in the centre to prevent double loading of the pallets. 

It's amazing what you find after spending weeks looking at fuzzy photos, and working out the why and where of these things. Like the straw coloured roundel, for instance, and I'm not taking the mick JHB! 

Richie. 

Spot on @Mayner about the weight rating. I'd say you're right about density, would make sense since they didn't fill the central two bays with more pallets. 

@jhb171achill I've slides and photos showing the roundel clearly in white, and clearly in straw yellow, not tan, so both will displayed on the plates, and we'll take it from there. I can't publish them, sadly. 

This is the Max Load 48 Tonnes marking, as seen on both wagons June 2001.

Lastly, this is the roundel on the fourth door. (With a straw roundel) 

HTH, Richie

That's a pretty useful resource, even for brick nerds like me. Worth a sticky! R

2 hours ago, popeye said:

Is that a pic of the CIE one?

No, Popeye, that's the 6th wagon of the eight proposed, so the markings are in around the 2000 year, and they are sort of set out in a chronological order. The faded wheel will be barely noticeable on the real thing to  (hopefully) capture the "end of life" look these beauties. The first and second twin-packs have the straw roundel, and the last wagon it begins to fade as the time period moves away from that branding. 

Richie. 

https://scalescenes.com/scratchbuilders-yard/

R

Those markings on the cab side appear like a PR shot - time  to Dublin, Distance to Dublin, that kind of thing. Bragging rights, not a livery as such. 

Here's the actual livery. 

Too clean, my eyes!! 

Looks lovely George, fond of the aul brake vans and becoming accustomed to 7mm, love the dropside SR wagon and the 2mm siphon too. R, 

@Broithe you have been summoned!!!

The rail clamps are present, but there should be friction elements too - 16 in total if memory serves, beneath the main buffer and spaced out behind.  I scratchbuilt a few for Boskonay, hence the nerdiness. interesting "prototype for everything" shot.

Not much craic doing deco plates at this hour of a friday night, mind.... 

1 hour ago, chris said:

it's on my very long list of jobs to start at some undefined future point...

The very definition of railway modelling, if I ever heard one! 

43 minutes ago, Robert Shrives said:

Hope your modelling mojo does not melt in the heat plenty of suitable fluids available  I imagine down the local for "an afterwork."     

Maybe for the second half of a World Cup game, or tha, not that fussed...

(Mon' Columbia, daddy needs a new pair of shoes...  )

But no, modelling mojo is at an all time high - graphics plates on the entire 42 project, sorting some Cemflo data in the morning, a skype date to work on our most epic project yet, and even got to do some work on my own personal E-Class projects. (reinforce the word "personal" here, be reading anything into it)

3 minutes ago, scahalane said:

Looks like its going to be a beauty!! Great modelling job Richie.

Cheers Sean, always appreciated from a fellow traveller!

Rich

(The E Class business was last sunday afternoon during the Sunday Game Bosko, so chill.. )

Jaysus Red, I'd take you up on that had I the time. The wiggly green pipe that used to traverse the sides, and how to do it, is currently addling me, amongst other things.  R.

Is this of any help? 

Cross wind, air pressure, and a host of other factors can't get current aircraft to land on a 4 inch centre line of a runway perfectly, no mind into a perfect gauge rail system. Absolute nonsense.

1 hour ago, Robert Shrives said:

Thanks for all the info - what about the concrete sleepers alongside, for completeness

26" centres - taken at Athy - 8.67mm in 4mm. 

It works out at 100" or 8'4" - in scale 33.33mm for 4mm. As regards spacing it varies a fair bit in those photos, but 32" centres appears to be a mean dimension - 10.67mm centres in scale. HTH. R.

Ken, I popped into Lenihans hardware in Dublin, bought a few long bolts and some nuts, total spend of €1.36 and have a few working 21mm track gauges. The ones from Scalefour only work on Code 75 track, so anything more exotic (this clown here is using code 100) requires a homemade solution. 

14 minutes ago, warb said:

glenderg

yes please ever little helps

regards

Funny, that's the company motto too!!  

I think I've yer email from the "fart box" drawings discussion? 

14 minutes ago, Noel said:

You'll need to file the IRM logo flat under one NEM pocket per wagon

Mein Gott!

Have to say that the first image really got me when I saw the DNG "For Sale" poster and thought, "ooh, 475k for starters anyway...." 

I made up the ones below in 2012, and have higher resolution versions if of any interest.  R. 

The containers are designed to the iso standards 1496 & 1161, and all their sub documents, that determine mounting points, lugs, openings, and all manner of exciting things. It's a design nightmare if I'm honest, but it's to the adopted guidelines. 

I strongly suspect that other manufacturers read the same documents and design accordingly. If they don't, designing something that was intentionally incorrect would not sit at all well with us. 

R. 

@BosKonay same here chief...