Someone asked me recently about colours of the 1945-62 CIE logo and accompanying lettering.
Firstly, the "Flying Snail".
On all steam locos (green, the very few black, or the vast majority grey) - Pale green (eau-de-nil). Never white or yellow. Always lined in gold.
On early diesels of B113 and D classes - same until repainted light green.
On all other diesels, namely the above in light green and all others later, including the very few paintings of "A" class locos in dark green, the "snails" were unlined light green. A note, in relation to DCDR's G611: no "G" ever carried a snail.
Carriages: light green again, lined in almost all cases when dark green (exceptions being a handful of vehicles repainted at Albert Quay); and unlined with lighter green livery. I suspect there were a few cases of lined snails on light green six wheelers, though!
No silver coaching stock ever carried the logo.
Wagons: White was used from the outset, but in the early 50s, some of the darker grey goods stock had light green snails and numerals.
Numbering was always the same colour as the "snail" on diesel locomotives, goods and passenger stock in any livery, but confusion often reigns with regard to steam engines.
While the cabside plates had grey (not black) backgrounds on grey engines, and black backgrounds on black engines, there were only three green locos with plates; the 800s. All initially had dark blue backgrounds, as on 800 in Cultra, but 801 and 802 ended up with red backgrounds, as seen on the RPSI's 461 now. (461 was never green in traffic). Raised numerals on plates were painted white or cream, or polished metal.
Once plates were replaced by numerals, these were always painted in light yellow. The numerals were never lined.
Thus, a typical grey or black painted CIE locomotive had an unlined yellow cabside number and a lined "eau-de-nil" snail. Snails were thus never yellow.
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Someone asked me recently about colours of the 1945-62 CIE logo and accompanying lettering.
Firstly, the "Flying Snail".
On all steam locos (green, the very few black, or the vast majority grey) - Pale green (eau-de-nil). Never white or yellow. Always lined in gold.
On early diesels of B113 and D classes - same until repainted light green.
On all other diesels, namely the above in light green and all others later, including the very few paintings of "A" class locos in dark green, the "snails" were unlined light green. A note, in relation to DCDR's G611: no "G" ever carried a snail.
Carriages: light green again, lined in almost all cases when dark green (exceptions being a handful of vehicles repainted at Albert Quay); and unlined with lighter green livery. I suspect there were a few cases of lined snails on light green six wheelers, though!
No silver coaching stock ever carried the logo.
Wagons: White was used from the outset, but in the early 50s, some of the darker grey goods stock had light green snails and numerals.
Numbering was always the same colour as the "snail" on diesel locomotives, goods and passenger stock in any livery, but confusion often reigns with regard to steam engines.
While the cabside plates had grey (not black) backgrounds on grey engines, and black backgrounds on black engines, there were only three green locos with plates; the 800s. All initially had dark blue backgrounds, as on 800 in Cultra, but 801 and 802 ended up with red backgrounds, as seen on the RPSI's 461 now. (461 was never green in traffic). Raised numerals on plates were painted white or cream, or polished metal.
Once plates were replaced by numerals, these were always painted in light yellow. The numerals were never lined.
Thus, a typical grey or black painted CIE locomotive had an unlined yellow cabside number and a lined "eau-de-nil" snail. Snails were thus never yellow.
I hope the above is of interest and use.
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