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Interesting pictures. In the first picture the coach behind the loco is a MK2A and in the second picture the first and third coaches are MK2A's. So the Murphy Models/Bachmann MK2A model which is the only RTR Irish model of this coach ever produced is a must for anyone wishing to complete a train consisting of MK2A/B/C coaches.

Passing through Drumcondra

Sale agreed

Unfortunately the reality seems to be that a C Class is conditional on the sales of ICRs Hunlets and 800s and from a business perspective I can understand that. So maybe give this a second thought, the Hunslets did run in the '80's. The 800 is an iconic must have for anyone interested in Irish Railways,and a show piece even in a display case. And while the ICR is very modern it looks and promises to be fabulous and it seems to me regardless as to the period of a layout, all you have to do is park all those models of older trains out of sight and run a liner freight train and an ICR and bingo it's 2010.

Four twin packs of Bachmann/Murphy Models MK2a coaches (complete set) in mint condition, price 110 euro per pack. Packs are; IR logo, Pack MM4101 (running nos 4101 & 4108, and Pack MM4102 (running nos 4102 & 4110) IE logo, Pack MM4108 (running nos 4101 & 4108 and Pack MM4110 (running nos 4102 & 4110) These are complimentary to the MK2b/c coaches produced by IRM, (Difference is the MK2a features a centre door) Note these packs are unopened and still in original shrink wrapping. May be collected or delivered in Dublin. If interested please send me a PM

Pack of three Mk2 coaches in Galway livery, in mint condition 160 euro, located in Dublin. If interested please send PM.

Naah, let's move forward, we've gone beyond that.

Oh Dave, please don't put the kybosh, on a Class C. I can understand the Hunslet project is a consequence of the release of the NIR MK2 coaches which in turn were a logical extension of the UK Mk2s, and it's wonderful to see a model of a prototype of which there were only three that didn't circulate widely being offered and selling well. That being the case it seems logical that models of items such as the Class C and AEC rail cars which were ubiquitous for a long period of time, would be a standout success regardless as to how much seems to be coming on stream. Both also complement the Park Royals. It also seems to me that what is currently in the pipeline is long promised and there is pent up demand for more. Personally while it's great to see the 800's in that pipeline I would have preferred to have seen that effort applied to the more mundane stuff that was everywhere. My message to IRM is "bring it on"

On that basis, their inclusion in the "Services" section of this forum needs to be amended.

Hi Fran, do we have the option of redirecting delivery to say an Irish address? I accept this would mean paying VAT but that may be less expensive. Thanks Tom

It would be helpful if Paddy himself would comment on the matter. But on the face of it, it's a copyright issue and since these "new" items are not sold through the channels used by the copyright owner it is reasonable to assume that they represent theft of the copyright. Following the principle of copyright established in Ireland as early as the 6th century, the items on offer by the factory technically belong to Murphy Models. https://opensource.com/law/11/6/story-st-columba-modern-copyright-battle-sixth-century-ireland In this case what we seem to be seeing is excess production being offered by the manufacturer. That excess production is a necessary part of the production process as it is unlikely every item produced will pass quality control, but the likelihood is that some of the excess will be perfect. It is not uncommon for example for a printer to turn over the excess production of a book to the publisher, otherwise the excess is destroyed, and that should be the principle here. It is important to keep in mind that the cost of producing that excess was factored into the price quoted for the production run and therefore was paid for by the producer, in this case Murphy Models. All of this has been discussed before on this forum.

Hi Dave, In my view this is at very least highly unethical behaviour on the part of the factory and should be boycotted to discourage it. I take your point that there are vultures who might attempt to benefit from this but at the prices they are currently being offered the incentive is marginal. On the warranty question, there is nothing to distinguish them, so regardless as to any stipulation on the part of Murphy Models, in the final analysis I the ball ends up with Murphy Models and that is a very real problem for Paddy. Serial numbers might be a good idea going forward.

Thank you for that clarification. More to "weigh" up when placing a order.

Likewise, this will dictate more limited and selective purchasing. It's a fine line on Maslow’s pyramid

That raises another question. Parcelforce was established by the Royal Mail to handle larger parcels and while operating like a courier company they use the US postal service for delivery in the US. They apparently only hand over to the USPS in the states. But having handed over they cannot collect any tariff that may be due and so presumably this becomes the responsibility of the USPS and accordingly the option of paying a maximum tariff of $100 would apply. Perhaps clarification should be sought from Parceforce on this.