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  1. Hi David Thanks for your reply your alter ego isn't by any chance a war-games player that's how they do a lot their buildings and that's easy. I never thought of that as a model railway thing, due to the low detail war-gamer's seem to prefer for avoiding damaging them during play. regards John
  2. Hi David Just had a look at the thread WOW!! great work. Stop scaring the newbies and just where do you find the time. From a much earlier page how big is the tram bar it looks pretty small compared to other buildings you have done I rather like it regards John
  3. Hi all I had a rather mad thought last night. Four and six wheeled coaches fly off the shelf's mostly into the hands of children for their train set, or to the much older inner child. Given that 4 and 6 wheeled coaches seem to have lasted for much longer in Ireland than other places. Would it be worth producing a definitely Irish twin pack of brake coach and coach in four or six wheel coach's that has reasonable but less breakable detail. That would appeal to both the adult modeller and stand up reasonably well to a child a tough ask I know. Given it would also have to go round 14 5/8" curves to suit the child market as well as be just good enough that the adults will want them as well. I see it as being a twin pack thing as no one ever seems to do the brake coach for these small coaches. Could it be done cheap enough to be a viable very long term thing that pays for it's self and then some and maybe a bit more just for good measure, while still producing a reasonable likeness to real 4 & or 6 wheel Irish coaches??. OK thanks for the tea I will get my coat on the way out regards John
  4. A road trip could be somewhat problematic I am in the land down under. Looks like every thing is pretty much still there not sure about the yard crane though. However I have done what was suggested and contacted the Dunsandle face book page that has yielded some useful nice pictures and a more legible track diagram than I have. The Irish Model Railway Society sent me a section of map that will help separate out the unwanted modern stuff and has raised a few more questions that need answers. Nothing from the national archives in Dublin yet as to where anything else useful might be stored if it still exists, and I need to get some good Irish railway books any suggestions on titles that might help. Producing that Irish green landscape without turning it into a chocolate box or postcard green is going to be interesting. regards John
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    Lever frames

    From the looks of it only a cabin frame not a ground frame. But the manual working point levers do look interesting. regards John
  6. Hi Patrick Davy I am looking at Dunsandle to dip my toe in Irish railway modeling. From my point of view a good starter project. It has a full but compact station with short at full scale length a 3' platform, station building if I can find out what it looked like a tiny platform signal box is possible Failing that 4 lever frame also an 8 lever ground frame at the other end of the yard. It is fully signaled easily has a level crossing it has only one goods siding with a small goods shed platform and crane. However it could be modeled with the spur off to a ballast pit adding a bit more operational interest. Rolling stock required is a small amount of 4wheeled rolling stock and a brake van or two one coach may be two. locomotives a re-engined C class a G class and for Wednesdays only a 141 so theoretically a low train cost ( but we all know what really happens don't we ) Not in far enough yet to know what steam went that way or whats available in general yet All in all a good sized first project In Irish Railway Modelling. It would be interesting to know what other very compact but still something operational stations are or where once out there. These tend to get ignored for some reason, but could make good very first project or extension projects for existing layouts due to their compact nature or just plain good projects for the space challenged modellers. Don't tempt me with signal box build offers it would cost more to post it to me than it would to build the tiny little thing, if I had a drawing to work from for it to be built . regards John
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    Lever frames

    Hi all I hope this is in the right place if not moderator please move to the right place. I need lever frames from what I can work out a four lever frame for platform mounting and an eight lever ground frame. Whether or not the large frame should have a ships wheel for the crossing as well is unclear at this point in time The frames look very different to the Wills kit ones having short levers in a set up different to what I am used to. How would I go about making them or is a casting available for this kind of detail there absence would be very noticeable. Not only because I know they should be there but also because some obvious method of controlling the points and signals should be there. regards John
  8. Obviously the railway is only part way through the repainting process works for me The rider being that the two liveries followed one after the other Four coaches I might need a longer platform Well I mixed blood and custard and crimson coaches also but in separate trains teak and war time brown coaches to get the trains even a BR W full brake on a Pullman train as a luggage van on previous English layouts So I see no reason I should not do the same but different on an Irish layout, but I assume NIR and CIE should never be seen in the same train regards John
  9. Hi jhb171achill I am in the I will mix camp when it comes to coaches , I want this make up for a train I am not bothered about style (builder) of coach I look at the coach type first, std/3rd catering brakes hopefully matching livery If not it becomes which liveries ran together as liveries changed so if green ran with orange and black single stripe then that can be done to get a train. As long as the whole dogs breakfast looks a believable possibility I am happy. Thanks for confirming a steam generator car is an absolute must I have that at least in motion. Which means the core for RTR coaches could come down to literally two a composite and steam generator, one branch line complete train OK its a train set train. But I have seen pictures of a real similar sized trains, and if it can be done cost effectively even better. regards John
  10. Hi DiveController That Junction signal looks odd is it just a trick of the light one spectacle looks green the other blue. I have never heard of a railway using both green and blue spectacles its usually one or the other not both. regards John
  11. Hi all Signal and crossing lamps are different A crossing lamp has Two equal sized lenses red in color the lamp housing may be red or black depending on rail company as a side at one time the crossing may possibly be attended by two street lamps with a half red street light the red facing the on coming road traffic as a warning there is a level crossing. A signal lamp housing is black has odd sized lenses the larger one to light the signal the smaller one the back light which may also be on an angle is for the signal man to be able to see the lamp is lit the back blinder is to block the train drivers view of the back light. Because if he saw it the train would stop and it would be a phone call to the signal man because of the unusual light for train drivers any unusual light regardless of color means stop.
  12. Hi jhb171achill Yes not many pretty rakes around usually mixed, pretty rakes are very much a modern thing, or Model Railway Thing. I am very much in the I have an idea of what a train should be seat but? Just not specificaly an Irish one, a catering coach is on my want list, you can't make up a long distance train without one even if its only a four coach train working on the Irish trains are short theory, defiantly not 16 or more coaches we get on long distance trains. A brake end coach may be rare but I would think most model rail trains would be to short to justify two generator coaches of whatever description but I believe Ireland like other places in the world is supposed to have a proper guards compartment each end of a passenger train. So I bow to those with superior knowledge on that one. I just have the point of view that if the locomotives are made RTR then at least a small well chosen core of RTR rolling stock in appropriate liveries should be made to go with them. Two train loads one goods the other passenger which should be able to be done with a very small selection of stock all I care about is finishing the trains I have or rather don't have so the locomotives where not a wasted purchase Hmm I think my frustrations are really showing regards John
  13. ( In my highly biased opinion ) As long as the first two RTR laminates are catering and a composite or single class brake end. I would suggest high standard painted would be best for the outside orange and black with single white stripe with the same high standard of painted finish out side for other liveries produced That way its just load the machine safety check hit start produce number of coaches required to fill orders send to assembly and finishing departments. Then off to the happy customers with minimal messing about where multiple liveries are required a manufacturer would probably knock them out in batches of the same livery at a time to minimize material wastage i would suggest Not Knowing for sure that the different era's would have different colors for interior fittings the separate classes certainly would the colors of interiors are not as critical as having the right interior in the right coach . If enough of a particular coach are being produced changing the color of the molded plastic interiors to suit era is not such a big deal the main thing is that the interior is there to begin with. regards John
  14. Hi all Identifying the one coach for Dunsandle is driving me nuts. I have looked at Dunsandle and Loughrea here http://eiretrains.com/stationindex/ in stations D and stations L From an earlier answer given to me on a different thread I know it was one coach modified to have storage heating the pictures appear to show more than one coach type on the branch. Given the focus of the pictures is more on the locomotive I am having trouble working out if my original idea find a Bachmann Irish train set brake third and repaint is the answer or do I need something else iether kit or RTR but preferably RTR If I can find the right coach, from information I have found on the net (if it's correct) that coach and the Loco I have can run the Wednesday services giving me a starting point to build on Looks like I might have enough Peco set track points for the station and start of the ballast pit line they should be OK given the slow speeds and short trains I might even have 3' of old Triang wide platform I can use think I have the short ramps as well might be a bit steep but if it gets me started that's me happy. regards John
  15. Hi all Well considering the coach runs are not long enough to allow for me to first find out then purchase a rake over time I don't have a complete train and given E bay price madness and the fact they don't show up often probably never will. I would suggest that having a constant 1st, standard / 3rd and catering coach also a brake end. In whatever coaches lasted the longest covering the maximum number of eras Cravens ?? These could be painted in the successive liveries giving max production life on the mold hopefully reduce the cost a fraction making them more accessible. Then if you can't get one you can get one of the others, OK it may mean mixed colors in a rake but at least a full rake would be possible taking into account the kit manufactures offerings fill the gap. Having the common 4wh wagons like open, van and brake constantly available would also be handy and wagons are even more problematic given the even wider variations but the need for them is greater than coaches. If a small core production of RTR rolling-stock every one could use was possible then the market would grow allowing for others to be added over time. Locomotives are pretty useless without a train to go with them just ask me I will tell you. I have two Irish locomotives without complete trains and little to none chance of getting them . A problem I see as getting a lot worse before it gets any better if it ever does. regards John
  16. Thanks for a very helpful answer So a G and one coach will be fine, I think that just about meets the three times scenic rule and it hasn't left the station yet Trains through Dunsandle that I have found pictures of on the Net, are a bit varied, but are all train set sized for want of a better description. The passenger train no matter what's hauling it is one coach from what I can tell the brake coach from the Bachmann Irish set is what I need to find for the coach. It could have up to eight wagons and a brake van tacked on the back I better make sure the SM's wagon load of peat for domestic fuel is on the train. Have not seen any Kits for Irish six wheel coaches or English ones that could have a spray can conversion, read as at this point in time don't know who originaly owned the line. So don't know which two six wheeler's or steamer would be suitable regards John
  17. Hi all Something more like $60.00 AU or thirty UK pounds is more like a reasonable price for those. That's an at that price you may put it back on the shelf thanks. Given the need to purchase new after market commonwealth bogies that allow the easy fitting of NEM couplings ( they do exist). regards John
  18. Hi all I found on the Net a measurement for Dunsandle platform as being 230' long My maths which I was never any good at tells me the platform length at full 4mm scale length is 36.2". No idea what .2 of an inch works out at as something that can be measured on a rule Also does anyone know are platforms measured as a full overall length or are they measured between the ramps? The reason I am doubting the length calculation, I have yet to come across a station able to be done full size in something nearly resembling a reasonable space It could almost be done on 9' X 5' if you can live with the curved tracks out of the station instead of straight ones How to hide the loop on relatively flat ground is going to be interesting. regards John
  19. At least taxi is spelt the same in all languages I will pick up my coat on the way out regards John
  20. Thanks that means my known reality departure for operational reasons will be at least be believable a catch point indicator and local Mck and H ordinary points indicators with 1896 aspects provided they can be made to work. regards John
  21. From what I can find so far the Loughrea (spelling) branch closed in 1975 so I would imagine it will more likely be the old style white speed boards given the orignal very light construction of the line. Upgrade that's why the possible need for the thirty five board some work was done something about rail cars I think?. It looks I have had my first detail bum steer by the look of it,. I really need to find a book or two on Irish railways with some good information in it. While on signage any idea when the brakes board came in and sizes regards John
  22. Hi all Does any one produce mile pegs and speed restriction signs in the low end MPH I am going to need some for my proposed Dunsandle layout from 0 to 25 MPH in 5mph jumps and for the express snail possibly 35 MPH "such reckless speed" I have found a picture showing a yellow plate with black numbers but no dimensions for the signs or color of the back white ?? If I have to make them I figure "N" scale rail post ( I still have some "N" scale rail somewhere) and paper sign hardened with super- glue should do it to produce a resilient sign. But have no idea how big the sign plate should be in 4mm scale or how high above rail height it should be. regards John
  23. Looking at the picture and it being a very very obsolete type of signal by 1958 it is quite possible that it does show a white light for proceed. Although one would hope by that year they had found a way for it to show a green light for proceed as per the standards well and truly in by then. But that depends on is it an indicator or a signal if it is classed as an indicator, Not a signal then they can get away with the white light and a notation in the general appendix to the book of rules or its equivalent. Not sure what year the colours changed from Red, Green and White to the Red, Yellow and Green for lights we recognize today but it was quite early on in the signals story. regards John
  24. Hi GM171kk For your next challenge motorizing and making track worthy the hi rail equipment . Hope this is going to be part of the later proper railway would be a shame not to use it. Fantastic job regards John
  25. The x is probably aimed more at road traffic when swung across the carriageway. The signal is an indicator to the oncoming train that the crossing keeper has closed the gates in a timely manner ! I know in the UK the big red spot or diamond on the gates depending on railway acted as a stop signal for the train if the gates where still open.Not sure the X is big enough for a signal. This suggests the twin arms should both be in the same position depending on gates open or closed which would be relatively simple to do. regards John
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