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DaninhisDen, 00 works are also doing this loco in the LSWR / KESR 0330 version, near as dammit to the CBSC job. Otherwise you can get a 3D print from Shapeways /Rue d’Etropal design, and look round for a suitable RTR chassis (sorry I can’t help with that)
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Westport Quay and the Project 42 Inglenook
Northroader replied to Sean's topic in Irish Model Layouts
Sean, that van was put up there for Kate Winslet to have her hair done between shoots, then Di Caprio says if she’s having that, I want me own tin van on the foreward hatch. They’re a terrible lot when they get out of Hollywood. -
Very nice job, begging to be modelled. Two things strike me, it’s an old NCC wagon, yet it’s got the axleguards behind the solebars and the springs instead of in front; then for a sixwheeler there doesn’t appear to be any provision for sideways movement on the centre wheelset? -and the brakeshoe is acting on the centre, too. (Nelson was producing great models, but he was at the growing up stage where you discover women and booze, good luck with that, matey. He’ll be back, I’m sure.)
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It would go with a Sentinel, nice red colour, on a micro layout just out in the sticks from Belfast?
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The day two blokes stole a steam engine...
Northroader replied to spudfan's topic in Letting off Steam
Then there was the day a Peak got stolen at Derby Works, but it didn’t get so far.. https://www.macearchive.org/films/midlands-news-22111962-diesel-train-stolen-derby -
We Boldly Go To Deco Stage - Enterprise Mark 2 Coach Update
Northroader replied to Warbonnet's topic in News
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Thing about p.b. is that it solders well, so no problem anchoring the fingers to the brass strip. The steel wire wouldn’t “take” so well.
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As you asked, David, a bit more on springing the leading axle on a 2-4-0. First a close up picture of Sylph: I'm pushing the wheel up in the oval guiding slot, and acting against the pressure of a rectangle of brass foil screwed under a frame spacer. The foil is quite thin, I’d guess under .010” thick. It came from a pack of different strips coiled up in a tin can, labelled “brass shimstock”. I’m afraid I bought it a long time back from an ironmongers before DIY stores were invented. The brass does retain sufficient springiness to give some downward pressure, and acts against the wheelset tilting, but... how do I do it now? A similar wheelset on another more recent build. Here there’s a strip of brass screwed across a frame stretcher, and at each end there’s a finger pressing down on the axle. The fingers are 28swg phosphor bronze wire. Phosphor bronze does keep the springy quality better than brass, and having them placed at each end of the axle counteracts the tilting better. (The loops underneath are sprung pickups on the driving wheel in 22swg p.b.) Slaters used to supply both sizes in a small pack, but looking at their website tonight, it’s no longer available from there, I’m afraid. whilst I'm on, here’s a close up between the drivers showing another key item on a 2-4-0. You’ll see the gear and motor are tipped up as far forward as I can get them inside the firebox. The space behind the motor to the backhead is then as full as lead sheet as I can manage, and just in front of the trailing driver axle you’ll see a nice big brass block tailored to fit between the frames. This all moves the mass of the loco back over the drivers, as it’s easy to get a loco noseheavy.
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Thanks for your comments, having made the model I’m aware there are shortcomings in things like accuracy, squareness and so on. It was early on in my model building, but I wouldn’t like to say I’ve got much better since, Keep on trying. I'm away from base at present, and will try and show how the leading axle is sprung when I get back home.
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Having done two locos which were formed from kits for the running chassis, I felt I had learned enough to try and make my own. The key investment was buying my only machine tool, a pillar drill from Ferm. It has a nice flat table, and you can put your work down on this, hold it steady with one hand, and bring the drill down with the other, knowing it’s dead square to the work. The drill was well made, reasonable value, and has been used many times since for loads of work. The one job that I bought in was a set of coupling rods of the right wheelbase, which were steel etchings which folded up like a concertina to make a lamination. They were soldered up solid using Bakers soldering fluid, an acid flux. The hole centres were transferred over to a pair of frames, filed up to profile from brass strip sweated together. Axle holes were drilled and opened out to take bushes, holes for the bought in frame spacers were drilled and countersunk, then I put in a wheel on an axle which showed me where to place holes for pickups to go behind the flanges. The frames could then be unsweated, cleaned up, and assembled. I’d also bought a 3/16” reamer, so I could pass this through the axle holes and make sure the wheels turned freely. The coupling rods needed the holes opening slightly before everything moved freely, but at the end of it I’d got a working chassis. The loco I’d chosen was another MGWR type, the K class 2-4-0, which became the GSR/CIE G2, mine having had a 65 year life all told. The superstructure was formed from brass sheet, and the whole job was done just like the L 0-6-0. So then I came to put it down on the rails and juice up. Problem! The wheels turned, but were spinning, with the loco just inching forwards very slowly. I’d made it with all the axlebushes mounted rigidly in the frames, and the wheels all touching down. Actually they never do all touch down, there’s always going to be a few thousandths of an inch difference, and in my case the leading carrying wheels were taking too much of the weight and lifting the centre drivers just clear of the track. Once I’d worked that out, I removed the leading axle bushes and put some thin side frame extensions in brass sheet, with a vertical slot to guide the axle, and a piece of springy brass acting down on the lead axle to keep the wheels on the rails. Then make sure the main weight of the loco was placed between the drivers, and try again. Success! I’ve now got a decent runner that will pull a couple of coaches. Its No. 23 “Sylph” (named after the missus, of course)
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Notice you say regional trains, a bit ago I bought a ticket, asking from A to B. The ticket office bloke gave me a ticket, and a very lengthy spiel, which went in one ear and out the other, as I dont speak German. Looking at it, no mention of the stations, anyhow did the journey, and come back from a different place, an unstaffed station. Tried to get a new ticket from the guard, and it turned out I’d been given a regional runround for the area as the cheapest option. Changed trains to get back to A, and caught an intercity, and got a frightful roasting off the ticket collector, using a regional ticket on an intercity. Luckily the next stop was the one I wanted. So just maybe this new ticket has the same drawbacks?
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Just from the unused recesses of my brane, so not at all reliable, I think it was A flat / G flat. (Edit: I’m not at all musical, it was just what it said on the stores shelf)
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Linking in Sharps singles and Continental modelling, there was a Dutch artist called Anton Pieck, who had a very enjoyable dated “folksy” style, with plenty going on, in nice architectural settings, and very good for a “cameo” setting, complete with a level crossing and keeper. Funnily enough none of the old Dutch railways had one of the early Sharps as shown here:
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I do mine using cooking foil. Some threads are glued on the back with evostik for the tying down, and I fold the edges over to give a clean edge and add some strength. Then paint with Humbrol light grey primer, topped with Matt dark grey. The lettering is Matt white applied with a springbow pen, but you need to be careful or the pen will cut through the foil. It’s quite good for taking up natural looking sags and folds.
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Brookhall Mill - A GNR(I) Micro Layout
Northroader replied to Patrick Davey's topic in Irish Model Layouts
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Going back to your opening post, for a microlayout in Irish narrow gauge, could I suggest Moyasta Junction as it currently exists operated by a preservation society, which is as basic as it gets. Here’s a sketch of the layout, and I’d suggest that the engine shed and siding which was added by the new folks, is replaced to opposite the signal cabin, making a handier operating situation. heres a link to Roger Farnworths article on the West Clare with good pictures past and present. https://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/05/09/the-west-clare-railway-part-6-moyasta-to-kilkee/
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Layout Idea: GNR(I) Bundoran-Sligo line
Northroader replied to RaglanRoad's topic in Irish Model Layouts
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MGWR Passenger and Goods Stock - is there a need?
Northroader replied to 2996 Victor's topic in Irish Models
I’ve just had the one kit from Shapeways, a GER coach which came around a year ago. I gather it was an improved print, with a whitish dusty finish, and I was quite pleased with it. Maybe earlier productions weren’t as good, the first time I saw a 3D print it reminded me of a 50ply sweeping off the pavement. Resin castings? I’ve tried them, but the problem with me is having a flexible mould to free them always led to some distortion. There must be ways of getting round this, as when I buy them commercially, they’re nice and square. -
MGWR Passenger and Goods Stock - is there a need?
Northroader replied to 2996 Victor's topic in Irish Models
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The second loco I fancied was the MGWR “L” 0-6-0 standard goods, which does have a varied history, with alphabetical suffixes for variations, and becoming two classes in GSR days. I hadn’t built up enough competency to build it entirely by myself, I needed a machined chassis, and as luck would have it, the wheel sizes and wheelbase are very close to a GWR 2251 class, just the Swindon loco has more overhang at the back end. At the time, there was a long established firm, CCW, doing kits for chassis and bodies of quite a wide range of popular prototypes. The chassis were very similar to the Leinster Models kits, with 1/16” frame plates and spacers, axle bushes, and the coupling rods were very nice milled to profile in nickel silver. They were reasonably priced, so I sent for it, and some Slaters wheels, buffers, pickups, and a motor/gearbox from Premier. Then it was just trim a foot or so of the back end and reposition the rear spacer holes, and mark and drill for the pickups. Everything fitted very nicely, and I became a CCW fan. They had a great catalogue, with an extensive range of products, a good stand at the Gauge 0 Guild meetings, and I started to pick out what I fancied next. Then they stopped trading! Just like that, there one minute, gone the next. On to the body, I did this myself from .018” brass sheet, tinsnips, hacksaw and filing. Anybody remember Micromodels? They were neat little printed card sheets in a pack, very small scale, and I used to cut them out and stick them together when I was a kid, and they did have the virtue of showing how you could form the shape of a loco from a flat sheet, so useful training. You can still pick them up on eBay, and there are folks still producing the same idea as downloads. Here’s a sample if you haven’t come across them. http://worldofmicromodels.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Set-NS-V-Justin-Olson.pdf Using this principle, plus some commercial castings for a dome, the superstructure was formed. The tender is made with the outside frames as dummies hanging down from the body, and the wheelsets run in a detachable inside frame. You’ll see it has a PCB fixed on carrying phosphor bronze whiskers (wire from Slaters) acting on the wheel flanges for pickups Then the body gets done from brass sheet in a similar manner to the loco. And there you have it, I really did fancy the unique look for the MGWR “flyaway”cab.
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I think when you’ve got a small layout, the water tank/signalbox situation is either/or, both together is going emphasise a cramped look. The same thing happened on my line.
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Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
Northroader replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
I’m surprised reading the article that there’s little mention of the historic and picturesque nature of the place as a tourist attraction? -
I fancy the Guvvinment put the money up and the MGWR were very helpful in spending it, contrast the “tin sheds” on the GSWR with the tasteful brick builds on the MGWR.
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Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
Northroader replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
The BR container is loaded crosswise instead of lengthwise. Maybe there’s two on the open?