Noel

Very funny! Seplling is not my storng piont. Combine with Lexdysia and its a precipice for verbal unreasoning. :) Below is the closest they have to Black'n'Tan livery headfones

Hi Ian. The baseboards are looking really good. Do you have a track diagram? Noel

Hi Fran. For now I would view 3D merely as a 'holding exercise'. It would never compare with the quality of what you guys or MM could produce. Noel

I am awaiting feedback from a designer on the feasibility of an 00 gauge 'A class' body in 3D. Not convinced 3D stepping can be minimised on the compound curves of the A class cab roof, nor the cost of using materials suitable for higher resolution prints. Some interesting 3D prints of Irish Locos https://www.shapeways.com/product/ED2F7SGHT/cie-e-class-421-oo-scale?optionId=40683661 https://www.shapeways.com/product/TUAAF8NZS/cie-e-class-401-oo-scale?optionId=42307672 https://www.shapeways.com/product/PZZCYVXM6/cie-b-class-sulzer-locomotive-oo-scale?optionId=42321334 https://www.shapeways.com/product/S3QTQFYCT/irish-railways-121-class?optionId=57420082 E 421 class E 401 class Sulzer B113 - Looks like curves would need a lot of filing and rubbing down! 121 class Beet wagon Double beet wagon N gauge C class

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/6303-CIE-lamps-on-diesel-locos I wondered the same when I was researching photos for B121 and B233. I am going for white lamps as they look more attractive visually on a model than the black ones and stand out better.

Super scenes Kieran and especially your NIR stock looks great, but this shot in particular is stunning. It looks like a calendar photograph taken out in the country side of a real train. You half expect to see a '© The Wanderer' or '© Kieran Marshall' on the bottom of the image such is the realism and composition quality!

Blast - I missed Bray today! Thought it was next weekend and was planing to go, my mistake. Great idea for new times.

Hi Tony. Pinch of salt here, as a relative newbie to spray painting I found rattle can aerosol paints such Halfords plastic grey primer superb for priming, almost needs to be used outdoors but you need to hold it at least 12 inches from the subject and keep it moving cause its like a fire extinguisher its so powerful. Also happy with Humbrol rattle can sprays for matt and gloss acrylic varnishes - outdoors or in well ventilated garden shed. However rattle cans give you no flow control, so hand movements back and forth past the subject to be painted needed, hence I'd guess at least 50% of the paint is wasted. Rattle cans seem to work well, once you get the distance right and keep them moving, but there is a lot of waste. Personally I'm glad I went through the 'pain' and 'reservations' barrier I had about using an airbrush, as it uses hardly any paint, and allows precision and indoor use (i.e. cause you can regulate the flow of paint with these double action airbrushes). There have been some fab jobs shown on the forum by folks who've painted stock with rattle cans. Noel

New bogies sides on B233 and B121. The Bachmann (Murphy Model) 141 chassis fits the SF kit like a glove and runs as you would expect from any centre drive chassis. Planning two more of these with 141 donors, one in 'Green' and one in 'all black' livery with the yellow flash. The Athearn SW1500 chassis less obvious now inside the 121 body shell with GM bogies and change of fuel tank A little fettling was needed on B121 body mounts to ensure bogie sides did not foul the steps. The surfaces of 3D bogie sides for 121 were very smooth, and a different material to that used on the body shell (i.e. no evidence of 3D, more like IMP). Question please, what do folks use to prime wire before painting? (i.e. for hand rails and grab rails).

Thanks Richrua. Bogie frames reconstructed with resin C class bogie sides, and reinforced with gussets. Ready for weathering then put humpty dumpty back together again.

Ok, changing the bogies side on both B233 and B121. B233 C Class - Cut GM bogies off the 141 chassis bogies and replaced with SF resin bogies sides (Metrovic C class). The MM/Bachmann bogie frames snap fit onto the bogie truck, act as a seal on the gear box, and host the NEM pocket. B121 with GM bogies fitted - filed the SW1500 bogies flat and glued 3D printed GM 121 bogie sides on top

Really excellent. I can hear the sea gulls and smell the sea looking at that.

Agree. Unfortunately there will always be some merchants who want to make money in the temple. Possibly also a bit of innocent OCD at play for some collectors.

Agree, mods if you feel like splitting this thread from post #5 and moving the relevant camera posts from #5 onwards to a new thread like "Filming layouts" in 'General Discussion' or 'Photos and videos of the Prototype' it would be appreciated. Apologies for thread drift. I have a few more pics of IRM Wagons I'd like to post here afterwards.

Hi Roxyguy. Canon 5D Mk3 has a great track record for professional video, not sure Nikon consumer DSLRs are quite at the same races for video. Cheers. Noel

+1 Absolutely class. Really enjoy your posts David. Noel

Classic. I remember those adverts so well, and how modern and uniform the 'super trains' looked, imagining that they were actually 'super' and capable of 100mph - not!!

Hi Paul. Cheers. I used Acrylic for everything so far including Railmatch, Tamiya and Vallejo Model Air. Noel Thanks JB. Wonder if 'piggin' the first hint of future doom and alien ICRs! Yes I remember similar tidy B&T stock back then. B141 and B165 are next in the queue.

I agree with you totally about phones. Canon 80D is much better at video than all the mid range Nikons. Normally I use the DSLR only for stills. Going to replace current camera with a D7500, but again for still use. The D5200 has been great for stills over the past few years but awkward for indoor video use. Anyway congrats again you guys on the wagons, we had immense fun yesterday with them on the layout. There is so much fine detail on them we were very careful unboxing and handling them. Glad you liked the video.

Finally bit the bullet and very lightly weathered one of my B&T MM 141s. Just enough to get the shine off it as a first step with minimal risks. Boy I was scared I was going to ruin a lovely model. Used a bit of Railmatch sleeper grime, frame dirt and roof dirt. Very light dusting to dull the loco down and get the shine off it. More to do in due course with exhaust and fuel tank. Comparison side by side: Left very lightly dusted B181, Right pristine B165 Side by side: B181 + B121 look more compatible now that both have a light dusting This time I experimented by leaving the walkway rails on, and just roughly masked the windows. If I matt varnish her to seal the weathering I will have to properly mask the windows to stop them going opaque (i.e. tape or maskol might be easier). Next time on B141 I am going to try a wash using a lightish colour on the black body.

Ok, that's clinched it and the visit of a WMRC member yesterday confirms same. I bow to sense.

RESPECT! Kieran the diversity of your modelling skills and throughput never ceases to amaze and inspire. I have nothing but the highest admiration for folks with the perseverance, endurance and skills to successfully tackle brass projects to a high standard. Look forward to seeing your coach progress.

Thanks. Hoping to get it finished this weekend, but the arrival of the IRM wagons caused some degree of distraction and excitement so I'm way behind finishing B121 and B233. Hi Fran, an old Nikon D5200 and a mix of an 18-200mm zoom, 35mm prime, and tried 12-24mm wide angle zoom for close in shots which proved useless. Personally live view on DSLRs just doesn't work for me, I prefer to look through the view finder and lens when videoing. Noel

Thanks guys. Glad you enjoyed. It was a team effort. I had the help of a WMRC member who operated the trains, sound and planned the sequences. I used a DSLR with long lens on a tripod, and an iPhone 6, but ironically the phone took much better video than the DSLR. DSLRs are pretty useless at video because the depth of field is too narrow, aperture is locked once REC is pressed, and AF during video is awful so I had to use MF. Phones are great in low light, AF, but too wide a field of view. Must get a little digicam for future use. Tripod really does help when recording video - doesn't make viewers seasick from camera movement. We only used about 5% of the footage we shot. The main objective was to get one continuous shot of the entire IRM ballast rake passing at platform eye level. A pal who used to be an RTE cameraman, and then went to work on films gave me some great advice years ago about video - avoid panning at all costs, and never zoom during a sequence. I had hopped to weather the IRM ballast wagons for the video but ran out of time. That's next months project. Anyway we had a fun evening operating trains hauling IRMs truly superb wagons. Two brown plough wagons are now on my future radar. But the main credit is due to team IRM

Yes those were the type of containers I remember CIE transporting by rail and by road in the 1960s. Dapol unpainted 5 plank wagons would make perfect partners for the containers. I have some Bachmann conflat containers which might be suitable for resprays. Interesting in that pic those are BR containers loaded on CIE wagons.