I felt a Turf Burner coming on, but ....

[leslie10646]

CC1 at Inchicore at the time of the Grand Tour in 1961                          Photo Lance King        Copyright Irish Railway Record Society

I got an e-mail about this:

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/sr-bulleid-the-leader-prototype-grey-early-crest-0-6-6-0-articulated-steam-locomotive-dcc-fitted

My 77 year old memory failed me when I thought that the chassis from this might have a secondary use on CC1, but alas:

The bogies look pretty different and

CC1 was 7 feet shorter than 36001 (the Leader Prototype).

Much easier to find a 60ft CoCo loco, unscrew the body and get to work with the Plastikard?

That said, I'm very tempted to have one for the "Glass Case".

 

Edited April 2, 2024 by leslie10646

[Westcorkrailway]

This one always seemed like an open goal for a 3D print project or a kit. 

[Mayner]

One of the MRSI Loughrea group built a presentable model of the Turfburner CCI about 20-25 odd years ago, plasticard body on an Athearn SD9 (Co-Co) Chassis.

In the days before MM brought out its 1st 201 there was quite a cottage industry in the club turning out quite presentable 201s and other IE diesels in plasticard and resin only one Turf Burner was built.

[Galteemore]

5 minutes ago, Mayner said:

One of the MRSI Loughrea group built a presentable model of the Turfburner CCI about 20-25 odd years ago, plasticard body on an Athearn SD9 (Co-Co) Chassis.

In the days before MM brought out its 1st 201 there was quite a cottage industry in the club turning out quite presentable 201s and other IE diesels in plasticard and resin only one Turf Burner was built.

Is that the one Denis Bates did? I think it even made it on to Adavoyle. 

[Mayner]

45 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Is that the one Denis Bates did? I think it even made it on to Adavoyle. 

It looks like we are thinking about two different  models of the "Turf Burner" built to two different track and wheel standards!

The Turf Burner that ran on the Loughrea layout was built by Brian Fennel, the trackwork on the Loughrea layout was laid to 21mm gauge to modified EM standards while Adavolyle was laid to P4 Standards.

 

[Mol_PMB]

On 2/4/2024 at 11:30 PM, leslie10646 said:

CC1 at Inchicore at the time of the Grand Tour in 1961                          Photo Lance King        Copyright Irish Railway Record Society

I got an e-mail about this:

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/sr-bulleid-the-leader-prototype-grey-early-crest-0-6-6-0-articulated-steam-locomotive-dcc-fitted

My 77 year old memory failed me when I thought that the chassis from this might have a secondary use on CC1, but alas:

The bogies look pretty different and

CC1 was 7 feet shorter than 36001 (the Leader Prototype).

Much easier to find a 60ft CoCo loco, unscrew the body and get to work with the Plastikard?

That said, I'm very tempted to have one for the "Glass Case".

 

Having seen your nice Leader model on the forum, it's got me thinking about this approach to CC1. CC1 had much smaller wheels and shorter bogies than Leader, so what class of diesel would be a good starting point? Let's have a look...

CC1 had a wheel diameter of 3'7", bogie wheelbase of 6'4" + 6'4", bogie spacing of 36'0" and length over buffers of 60'0".

The wheel diameter is a common one for GB diesel locos, but the bogie wheelbase is shorter than many of the common Co-Cos. For bogie wheelbase, the better options are:

• Class 37, 50, 55: 6'9" + 6'9" (i.e. overall bogie wheelbase is 10" too long, around 3mm on the model)
• Class 52: 6'1" + 6'1" (i.e. overall bogie wheelbase is 6" too short, 2mm on the model)

I think either of those options would be acceptable to most people.

Looking at the overall length and bogie spacing of the above classes,

• Class 37: 37'2" bogie spacing, 61'6" length over buffers
• Class 50: 42'8" bogie spacing, 68'6" length over buffers
• Class 55: 45'0" bogie spacing, 69'6" length over buffers
• Class 52: 42'6" bogie spacing, 68'0" length over buffers

So the Class 37 is a pretty good match, it's 18" too long overall (6mm on the model, or 2.5% as a proportion of the total length). The bogie spacing is 14" too long, about 5mm on the model. 

I think that sort of percentage error would be generally acceptable to many.

 

I'm pretty sure CC1 is wider than any GB loco so there should be no problem fitting the mechanism in the body.

So, IRM 'just' need to do is take an Accurascale class 37 and dress it up as CC1...