DiveController Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Can anyone offer an opinion in whether these (kinda) cheap and cheerful timber wagons at all resemble what ran on IR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 With a lick of oxide and some highlights on the stanchions I think they look well. You had to ignore the short length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 http://www.shapeways.com/model/89699/cie-2-axle-timber-wagon-oo-scale.html?li=search-results&materialId=6 Is another option for the 20' version. I've a few of these and they are good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I thought all IR timber wagons were bogie types ? By the way when were timber wagons introduced. I saw them in Waterford but it seemed recent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 There is a thread on the timbers here http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/1212-Four-Wheeler-Timber-wagons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) are they on 12 ' wheelbase flats, They don't look like the 20T container flats so were they derived from a different chassis ? Edited September 5, 2014 by Junctionmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 murrayec Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hi Junctionmad Here is a link to some real close up details- bogied wagons I know but detail that some may like to have;- http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/3135-Detail-pictiures-of-log-wagons-at-Kildare-21-April?p=49498&viewfull=1#post49498 Eoin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 I kinda thought that these might not be that similar when I posted. Some great shots for the scratchbuilders! Looked at all the threads and links and realize that these neither resemble the short (20'?) wagons nor the double bogie ones, which I prefer. The shapeways one looks prettty similar to my eye but I was hoping for a RTR without too much work/time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mayner Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 are they on 12 ' wheelbase flats, They don't look like the 20T container flats so were they derived from a different chassis ? The timber swap bodies were fitted on 27301-27767 series 22'6" 14' wb skeletal flats the last 4w wagons built. These had a sightly lower frame to carry 8'6" containers and a longer wheelbase to improve stability at speed. The channel framing of the swap bodies sat down over the wagon like a saddlebag and hid most of the wagon solebars and underframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 The timber swap bodies were fitted on 27301-27767 series 22'6" 14' wb skeletal flats the last 4w wagons built. These had a sightly lower frame to carry 8'6" containers and a longer wheelbase to improve stability at speed. The channel framing of the swap bodies sat down over the wagon like a saddlebag and hid most of the wagon solebars and underframe. Were these flat wagons donor or did cie custom build them , is there a picture anyway of the bare flat wagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 This is all good stuff, folks! Keep posting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 aclass007 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 SSM are about to release bogie flats in the near future. These would be a good starting point for building timber wagons, as opposed to spending money on something that doesn't resemble Irish stock..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yes, I see the error of my ways and agree with you, A-class. Maybe wait on those (and some time to begin building...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Can anyone offer an opinion in whether these (kinda) cheap and cheerful timber wagons at all resemble what ran on IR?
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