Timber Wagons

[DiveController]

Can anyone offer an opinion in whether these (kinda) cheap and cheerful timber wagons at all resemble what ran on IR?

 

[BosKonay]

With a lick of oxide and some highlights on the stanchions I think they look well. You had to ignore the short length

[BosKonay]

http://www.shapeways.com/model/89699/cie-2-axle-timber-wagon-oo-scale.html?li=search-results&materialId=6

 

 

Is another option for the 20' version. I've a few of these and they are good too.

[Junctionmad]

I thought all IR timber wagons were bogie types ?

 

By the way when were timber wagons introduced. I saw them in Waterford but it seemed recent

[BosKonay]

There is a thread on the timbers here http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/1212-Four-Wheeler-Timber-wagons

[Junctionmad]

are they on 12 ' wheelbase flats, They don't look like the 20T container flats so were they derived from a different chassis ?

Edited September 5, 2014 by Junctionmad

[murrayec]

Hi Junctionmad

 

Here is a link to some real close up details- bogied wagons I know but detail that some may like to have;-

 

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/3135-Detail-pictiures-of-log-wagons-at-Kildare-21-April?p=49498&viewfull=1#post49498

 

Eoin

[DiveController]

I kinda thought that these might not be that similar when I posted. Some great shots for the scratchbuilders! Looked at all the threads and links and realize that these neither resemble the short (20'?) wagons nor the double bogie ones, which I prefer. The shapeways one looks prettty similar to my eye but I was hoping for a RTR without too much work/time!

[Mayner]

are they on 12 ' wheelbase flats, They don't look like the 20T container flats so were they derived from a different chassis ?

 

The timber swap bodies were fitted on 27301-27767 series 22'6" 14' wb skeletal flats the last 4w wagons built. These had a sightly lower frame to carry 8'6" containers and a longer wheelbase to improve stability at speed.

 

The channel framing of the swap bodies sat down over the wagon like a saddlebag and hid most of the wagon solebars and underframe.

[Junctionmad]

The timber swap bodies were fitted on 27301-27767 series 22'6" 14' wb skeletal flats the last 4w wagons built. These had a sightly lower frame to carry 8'6" containers and a longer wheelbase to improve stability at speed.

 

The channel framing of the swap bodies sat down over the wagon like a saddlebag and hid most of the wagon solebars and underframe.

 

Were these flat wagons donor or did cie custom build them , is there a picture anyway of the bare flat wagon

[DiveController]

This is all good stuff, folks! Keep posting..

[aclass007]

SSM are about to release bogie flats in the near future. These would be a good starting point for building timber wagons, as opposed to spending money on something that doesn't resemble Irish stock.....

[DiveController]

Yes, I see the error of my ways and agree with you, A-class. Maybe wait on those (and some time to begin building...)