heirflick Posted November 7, 2017 Posted November 7, 2017 I know most of you would have by now seen the film 'The Seige of Jadotville', where 155 men of A company , 35 Batallion of the Irish Army under the command of Comdt Pat Quinlan defended Jadotville against a force of over 3,000 Katangese for 6 days, killing over 300 with 1000+ casualties without a single fatality to his troops. I will not talk about the shameful way these men were ignored and branded cowards on return to Ireland by their own units and by the Government, instead I would like to share with you a true story. I had the privilege of meeting a few of the survivors of the seige in Mullingar some time ago and apart from feeling so proud , I gained nothing but the highest respect for them. On to the story....... one told of when they were in captivity, they were allowed play the ould bit of hurling. After witnessing a fierce clash on the pitch, one of the guards asked what they were playing. On being told it was 'hurling' the Irish national game, the guard smiled and said 'If we knew you played a game like this - we never would have attacked you in the first placce!! 2 1 1 Quote
Noel Posted November 7, 2017 Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, heirflick said: . . . I had the privilege of meeting a few of the survivors of the seige in Mullingar some time ago and apart from feeling so proud , I gained nothing but the highest respect for them. On to the story....... one told of when they were in captivity, they were allowed play the ould bit of hurling. After witnessing a fierce clash on the pitch, one of the guards asked what they were playing. On being told it was 'hurling' the Irish national game, the guard smiled and said 'If we knew you played a game like this - we never would have attacked you in the first place!! Brilliant Quote
jhb171achill Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 That is a truly superb story. While I know it's probably not the stuff of a model railway website, I was unaware of how (and now wonder why) these men were so treated on their return. Did the state ever apologise? If not it seems long overdue. 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 The fact that they had to surrender because of lack of supplies and ammunition was seen by the Irish Government as embarrassing and an excuse not to honour these brave men because of political and strategic errors by the UN at the time Indeed the term Jadotville Jack was used later in the Irish Army to describe anyone who neglected to do his duty. Great film by the way, check it out if you have not seen it, its on Netflicks. 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Thanks, Wrenn, very interesting. A disgraceful, disgusting way for the state to treat these men. I'm sure they wondered what sort of country they were wearing the uniforms of. 1 Quote
heirflick Posted November 8, 2017 Author Posted November 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Thanks, Wrenn, very interesting. A disgraceful, disgusting way for the state to treat these men. I'm sure they wondered what sort of country they were wearing the uniforms of. It was finally announced in June this year by the Minister for Defence, Paul Kehoe that the men of A company 35 Battalion that served in this action are finally to receive medals - the type has yet to be decided. I my view nothing but the Military Medal for Gallantry with Honour is good enough and I hope they don't drag out the process like they have done with acknowledging their heroism. Quote
jhb171achill Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Couldn't agree more. I read up on it today. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 As if a medal could make up for the way these hero's were treated Quote
John-r Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 9 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: As if a medal could make up for the way these hero's were treated Well said Dave,. Shameful to treat our soldiers like that. Little use a medal when some of them went to their grave thinking they were tarnished, when in fact they were Heroes.our government at the time were the cowards for letting them down. 1 Quote
heirflick Posted November 9, 2017 Author Posted November 9, 2017 10 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: As if a medal could make up for the way these hero's were treated I will not Dave, nor will it ever. But the past is the past and while it is a discrase that it has taken too long to give them the recognition they deserve (which is a cause for nothing but shame on the Government and the army top brass), their heroism has been acknowledged and celebrated much to the delight of the surviving men and the families of the deceased. Comdt Quinlans action and that of his men at Jadotville is cited in military textbooks worldwide as the best example of the use of the 'Perimeter Defence' - a great complement for a small bunch of soldiers who experienced their first action! 3 Quote
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