Silver fox 4 wheel heating Van's

[Dave Dawes]

Morning all

When did the 4 wheel heating Van's run to and were they used with the craven coaches, can't seem to find much info on them. As they are different I fancied a Silverfox one for my new Irish layout 

Edited October 29, 2019 by Dave Dawes
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[Mayner]

The 4 wheel heating and luggage vans were used on the majority of diesel hauled passenger trains throughout the CIE system from the mid 1950 until the early 1970. They basically ran with all types of conventional coaching stock and are likely to have run with the Craven stock.

CIE introduced a small number of 6 wheel heating vans with two boilers in the early 1960s for use on the heaviest longest passenger trains, the 4w vans were withdrawn from fast main line service following the large scale introduction of bogie vans in the 1970, a few continued in use on Dublin suburban trains until the early  1980s.

 

[jhb171achill]

Yea, they did run with Cravens, but mostly in the 1960s. By 1970 they were relegated to branch lines after the BR vans were introduced, and in the same branch lines laminates and Park Royals were the norm. Even then, however, up to the withdrawal of the last one about 1976, a train of mixed laminates, PRs and Cravens might still see a tin van occasionally.

 

[Dave Dawes]

Thankyou gents, nice to know, now a decision as it's my railway and 1980s, do I run one, mmmmm, what's the saying . It's your railway .

[jhb171achill]

4 hours ago, Dave Dawes said:

Thankyou gents, nice to know, now a decision as it's my railway and 1980s, do I run one, mmmmm, what's the saying . It's your railway .

Exactly! You can run it with Stephenson's Rocket if you want!

Actually, several were still kicking about in the 1980s, one out of use at the buffer stops in Heuston where platform 6 is now, and I think another in Inchicore. Two more, of the ex-TPO style, were converted and would see many years more in the weedspraying trains.

So, a little poetic licence and away ye go!

[DiveController]

On 10/29/2019 at 8:27 AM, Dave Dawes said:

Thankyou gents, nice to know, now a decision as it's my railway and 1980s, do I run one, mmmmm, what's the saying . It's your railway .

1979

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126254131@N05/32490822426/in/album-72157675871216914/

The following 3101-series 4w heating vans were still in traffic in 1979: 3104, 3114, 3116, 3118, 3123

...although all were gone by 1981

Edited October 31, 2019 by DiveController

[flange lubricator]

I had seen those wonderful pictures before you can learn a lot from a photo the condition of the van would indicate that it’s on its last legs , the coach next to it has GUARD on the door the guard was possibly using tat a the guards van the 4 w van is there just to provide heat and nothing else . 

Edited October 31, 2019 by flange lubricator

[Dave Dawes]

5 hours ago, DiveController said:

1979

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126254131@N05/32490822426/in/album-72157675871216914/

The following 3101-series 4w heating vans were still in traffic in 1979: 3104, 3114, 3116, 3118, 3123

...although all were gone by 1981

That the one I was looking at, so yes modellers licence to be used, thanks for the pics 

[jhb171achill]

The only carriages they never ran with (and just wouldn’t look right with) would be anything air-conditioned - Mk 2 & 3.

Laminates of every type, old wooden stock, Bredins, Park Royals and Cravens, certainly.

Edited October 31, 2019 by jhb171achill

[IANG]

Kinda slightly off topic but how much would you expect to pay for pre owned dcc chipped fox model A class

Edited November 9, 2019 by IANG