Jack O'Brien Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Hi all, I am planning to model moate station in oo gauge during the early to mid 1920s. I was wondering if anyone has any drawing or diagrams of the station at that point. I was also wondering what locomotives were used there in the time period I'm modelling. When did the MGWR stop painting engines blue and when did they repaint all the engines and coaches. What coulors was the station panted. I would appreciate all help and information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) Jack : see Midland Man’s thread here for info. Ernie Shepherd’s book on the MGWR has a station drawing https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/8420-mgwr-formations-and-liverys/?tab=comments#comment-130393 Edited March 28, 2020 by Galteemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack O'Brien Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Galteemore thanks for the link to midland mans topic. I don't have access to the book sense why I asked if someone could send me the drawing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Man Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Hey Jack MOATE STATION IN 1920! I have all the drawings of the station when they did a survey in 2015 I think. Modaling Moate in 1920 would be hard as it is impossible to get any drawings of a A or C class (steam engines) I live near Moate and have surveyed the station a million times so I was going to model it myself in O gauge. If you want any help please just ask as I know people who could get you inside the station.If you need pics join the IRRS as they have lots of photos of the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The book is available here Jack for £15 all in, which is pretty good. It also includes a few drawings so you can build your own wagons etc. It’s a good resource for such a serious project - and costs less than a Hornby wagon! https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=Shepherd+&tn=Midland+great+western+&kn=&isbn= 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack O'Brien Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) On 3/28/2020 at 6:58 PM, Midland Man said: Hey Jack MOATE STATION IN 1920! I have all the drawings of the station when they did a survey in 2015 I think. Modaling Moate in 1920 would be hard as it is impossible to get any drawings of a A or C class (steam engines) I live near Moate and have surveyed the station a million times so I was going to model it myself in O gauge. If you want any help please just ask as I know people who could get you inside the station.If you need pics join the IRRS as they have lots of photos of the area. He it's a pity those pictures are hard to come by. Can you send on those photos as I need something to keep the boredom at bay during this virus On 3/28/2020 at 6:59 PM, Galteemore said: The book is available here Jack for £15 all in, which is pretty good. It also includes a few drawings so you can build your own wagons etc. It’s a good resource for such a serious project - and costs less than a Hornby wagon! https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=Shepherd+&tn=Midland+great+western+&kn=&isbn= Thanks Edited September 2, 2020 by Jack O'Brien 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Man Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 sorry they are all on my old phone but I will try something what is the lenght of your model idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack O'Brien Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 What do you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Man Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 How long is the layout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I posted a long post on midlandman's post the other day regarding MGWR liveries. PM me if there's anything specific you're interested in. Regarding the blue locomotive livery, this was both short-lived and also only confined to a few locomotives, mainly those 4.4.0s which operated on the Broadstone-Galway main line. The various 0.6.0 goods engines would have remained green before, during and after the few "blue" years (mid 1910s) and afterwards. It is unlikely that any of the "G2" 2.4.0s were ever blue either. Only a small minority of coaching stock was blue & white. Locos were green, coaches brown, as explained in detail on midlandman's question. After 1918 there was new livery. Black locomotives and very deep maroon coaches; mind you, many remained in the older livery after the GSR takeover in 1925, when locos all turned grey and carriages dark "crimson lake". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack O'Brien Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Midland Man said: How long is the layout? I'm not necessarily making anything permanent atm, I'm mainly just building the station along with locomotives and rolling stock. Once I have everything built then I will start to put it together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack O'Brien Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has any drawings of the MGWR A, C, K , G2 or L classes. If anyone has drawings of wagons or carriages as well could you send them to me, Thanks. Edited April 5, 2020 by Jack O'Brien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Jack, have you seen Ernie Shepherd's book on the MGWR? It contains some 4mm scale loco outline drawings. The IRRS may also be able to assist. I included an outline of a D16 "Achill Bogie" in the Achill book if that's any use.....it's not fully detailed, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Jack O'Brien said: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has any drawings of the MGWR A, C, K , G2 or L classes. If anyone has drawings of wagons or carriages as well could you send them to me, Thanks. The GSR diagrams of MGWR locos were published as a supplement to New Irish Lines several years ago, https://newirishlines.org/ carriage and wagon General Arrangement drawings are available through the IRRS digital collection http://irishrailarchives.ie/index.php/archives/maps_drawings/. Its believe that the MGWR locomotive general arrangement drawings may have been mislaid or destroyed at some stage, many of the carriage and wagon GAs in the IRRS archive are quite faded & some are damaged. If you send me a PM with your personal e-mail address I will forward copies of GSR & Midland loco diagrams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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