Decoder for Plough van

[controller]

Where can I buy a decoder for the IRM plough van?. 

Thanks,

Controller.

[NIRCLASS80]

17 minutes ago, controller said:

Where can I buy a decoder for the IRM plough van?. 

Thanks,

Controller.

You require a 8 pin function decoder or I have used old 8 pin decoders that I didn't require anymore and just used the light functions.

[controller]

Thanks NIR, I don't have anything like that at the moment. I was just trying to avoid online, postal charges, Brexit etc. Marks Models were sold out when I bought the plough van and ballast wagons just after Christmas. I have one or two old decoders that may have light functions, but they are wired. 

Thanks,

Controller.

[murphaph]

Be aware that some loco decoders can't be programmed unless there's some resistance where the motor should be as they use the back emf to generate the ack pulses. That's why most locos can be seen moving a tiny bit during programming. It's certainly the case with the standard Lokpilots. I found out when installing one in a dummy power car to control the lighting.

 

[NIRCLASS80]

That’s correct about the decoder needing to see a motor during programming if it’s an old loco decoder

. That’s why I always address them when plugged into a loco and also increase the value of CV29 by 1 in one of the decoders being fitted into a pair of the vans.

 Also by giving them the same address they change the lights automatically with the change of direction 

[controller]

Thanks Murphaph, It's always good to seek advice from the experts. I don't want to blow all the lights before I get a chance to enjoy them. Maybe IRM might have some, or know where to get them.

Thanks Again,

Controller.

 

[controller]

Thanks NIR, Again, good advice. I would have come to grief before I even started. Can the proper decoders be purchased online, EBay perhaps?. I could take a look, if I knew which one to buy. Better safe than sorry.

Controller.

 

[murphaph]

If you buy a function decoder as opposed to a loco decoder then you'll be grand. For example the 54620 on this page:

http://www.esu.eu/en/products/lokpilot/lokpilot-fx-v40/

These are specially made for these sorts of lighting only applications.

 

[controller]

Murphaph, your a gentleman, thank you.

Controller.

[controller]

Murphaph, I had a look at the decoder you suggested. I has everything I require, except that one is wired . The one I need is a eight pin direct connection. There is not much room in the van, and the wires would show. I will ask the lads in IRM if they have any, or maybe they can tell me where I can get the right one. 

Thanks,

Controller.

[murphaph]

Personally I've never seen an NEM 652 (8 pin) decoder with the plug directly attached. Maybe they exist though.

[controller]

Murphaph, Sorry about the confusion. I read the instructions again, that came with the van.(The PCB contains an eight-pin DCC decoder socket). When I bought the van from Marks, he told me they didn't have the right decoder, the only one he had was a wired one, and the wires would be seen hanging down in the compartment. That made me think that there was such a decoder without wires.  Back to the drawing board.

Thanks,

Controller.

[murrayec]

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/28011/gaugemaster-dcc29-oo-gauge-omni-direct-plug-decoder-8-pin-

[NIRCLASS80]

DCC Concepts also use to do a direct just like the one above. I have two in a set of vans. 

[irishthump]

9 hours ago, murphaph said:

Personally I've never seen an NEM 652 (8 pin) decoder with the plug directly attached. Maybe they exist though.

Yeah they’re available. Gaugemaster make one.

https://www.ajmrailways.com/model-railways/Gaugemaster-No-Harness-Omni-Small-8-Pin-Decoder-DCC29-DCC29.html

[NIRCLASS80]

https://www.dccconcepts.com/product/zen-black-decoder-universal-easy-to-fit-8-pin-direct-decoder-with-6-functions/

[DiveController]

On 15/1/2021 at 2:00 AM, irishthump said:

Yeah they’re available. Gaugemaster make one.

https://www.ajmrailways.com/model-railways/Gaugemaster-No-Harness-Omni-Small-8-Pin-Decoder-DCC29-DCC29.html

Just wondering if you have actually used this? It does seem to have back EMF

On 15/1/2021 at 3:40 AM, NIRCLASS80 said:

https://www.dccconcepts.com/product/zen-black-decoder-universal-easy-to-fit-8-pin-direct-decoder-with-6-functions/

Does this one work well, install easily , no wires showing? Looks like it has a small stay alive so hopefully no light flickering?

[NIRCLASS80]

1 hour ago, DiveController said:

Just wondering if you have actually used this? It does seem to have back EMF

Does this one work well, install easily , no wires showing? Looks like it has a small stay alive so hopefully no light flickering?

They work fine for me but light flickering is still an issue