Thanks Jb, but the Small and Large Tanks have the aesthetic edge over the Loughs ! Re the DSER moguls, they were well travelled in early life- one of the few DSE classes to see north of Dublin. Arriving during the Civil War, they were sent to Adelaide for safety (the irony of this to a child of the 70s is hilarious). Fred Graham, who saw the engines in steam at Adelaide, swore they were green….