Galteemore

This ex Dublin beauty is off to the breakers this week sadly. Been a lovely reminder of home in darkest Buckinghamshire !

It’s a tricky one, thus my use of ‘probably’! I’d really like to see it in blue: would look really smart. If only colour photography had been invented earlier. You’ll need a green Sligo engine next

Fantastic work. Oh how I remember the fiddle of soldering on 107 - making sure the numbers were straight and even spaced……

Interesting David - having also pondered this a few years ago. Shepherd says passenger engines got lined blue and goods engines plain unlined blue. The blue phase, sadly, didn’t last long. My own analysis of photos suggests that the Es probably stayed green, as any lining visible is black. On blue engines the lining was yellow.

TSO has four seats across, arranged 2+2 either side of a central aisle, while an SO has 3 seats across, arranged 2+1 with an offset aisle. Both offer the same legroom, but there is slightly less width per passenger in a TSO. That’s what Wikipedia says anyway…..

I believe there is a photo in the Johnson/O’Rourke book on modelling Irish railways.

Yes, I was just suggesting what Irish loco they might build! Looking at their existing wagon production in 7mm suggests that it’s a fairly modern piece of kit, the Irish connection possibly being a common GM power plant ?

Ideal loco, which could be seen from Sligo to Fenit and Timoleague over seventy years - lots of scope …..

I’d actually suggest an MGW E/ GSR J26….the UK equivalent (Dapol Terrier) has kickstarted many a small O gauge layout over here.

As a 7mm modeller, I think Irish modelling as an individual (as opposed to a club) in this scale actually works more easily with older prototypes, which tended to have more scope for shorter and more varied trains. Modern Irish trains take up a lot more space than the old Loughrea formations, for instance…. A 7mm 071 and 6 Mk3s, for example, will take up 3.5m just standing still. Just imagine how much room you’d need for a layout that will do that justice.

An EMD 645 connection, I wonder …..

Thank you so much. Hard to believe that was still happening in my lifetime. The closing minute is just lovely

They did manage to dig up the Titanic’s whistles from the depths and do exactly that, so it’s possible!

Recordings of RPSI’s 186 is probably as close as you’ll get.

Best take that up with the Chief Herald of Ireland. One of the fascinating byways of Irish history. The small matter of heraldry was, funnily enough, overlooked in the establishment of the Irish Free State, and was thus managed by a Crown appointee up until 1941! Quote….. It was discovered around 1923 that the office of Ulster King of Arms had not been legally transferred to the Irish Government and since the office was created by royal prerogative in 1552, the British Government said that they could not transfer the office to Ireland. Eventually, the Irish Government decided in 1930 to let Sir Neville Wilkinson continue his work until his death, at which point the office would be considered by the Irish Government to have lapsed. Wilkinson, incidentally, was one of the finest scale modellers in the world, specialising in dolls houses, some of which are still on museum display. http://bredafay.com/a-fairytale-is-born/

I suspect the colour was chosen on heraldic lines, given the styling of the plates. The colour does seem more like the older, lighter Irish Heraldic Blue than the contemporary version https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland

3’9”

Easily capable of 70 mph according to Donaldson. Bogie wheels 3’, drivers 5’8.5”. Loco length 37’, 1.25”. Wheel base 6’8, 5’10.5, 7, 7’4. Tractive effort 23780 lbs.

Almost certainly 457 at Limerick. Colin Boocock has very comparable photo from 1957

Thanks Alan. Nickel silver it is. Although long hidden under black paint now!! Many points of design likeness with your little gem.

Nice work Alan. You’ve made a nice job of that. When I made one I found it easier to make the firebox as a separate unit, to be bolted on to the main boiler. This saved further cutting into the boiler, which like you I also hate!!

Grab a UTA 7mm scale Jinty for under £200…..https://www.hattons.co.uk/448185/dapol_7s_026_008_class_3f_jinty_0_6_0t_19_in_uta_ulster_transport_authority_lined_black/stockdetail

Analysis of other photos suggests that the engine is either 170 or 171. No 174 was outshopped by CIE in full GN livery and appears to have kept her ‘GN’ letters on the tender until the end.

I think he means nameplates JB …..

Pretty much all of them. They were kept in barely runnable condition just long enough to keep the Derry Road open. This is how 171 looked in 1966, at York Road I think just after the RPSI got custody. Note how the ‘171’ has just been applied.