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  1. Drogheda-Navan was always single with the exception of crossing loops and sidings at Drogheda Platin, Duleek, Beaupark and Navan. As far as I remember the cutting between Drogheda and Platin was only wide enough for a single track https://www.geograph.ie/photo/3348749
  2. Carrignagat was the end of the double line section from Sligo until moved to Ballysodare in 1930. Apparently the original cabin was destroyed during the Civil War and replaced by a temporary ground frame until 1930 when the Junction was moved to Ballysodare. Ballysodare Cabin was a GSR replacement which controlled the junction with the SLNCR and the remotely controlled junction with the Burma Road at Collonney Junction.
  3. I think Portadown-Armagh was double tracked Armagh-Monaghan always single Monaghan-Clones double possibly singled as an economy measure 1930s. Belfast-Cavan appears to have been considered an important route up to closure, with a relatively frequent (by Irish standards) of direct passenger trains using modern steam hauled coaching stock.
  4. The Waterford and Limerick Waterford West-Fiddown was formerly double track. A section of the Down? main line at Grange was retained as a siding to serve a high loading bank after the main line was singled during the 1930s. Limerick Junction-Limerick double track in WLWR days. Dublin-Waterford Sections of double track retained as sidings. Clonsilla Junction-Galway. Sections of redundant double track were retained as lay-bye's or refuge sidings at the majority of crossing stations on singled sections of the main line. The lay-byes/refuge sidings were used for shunting complete trains clear of the main line when the running line and loop were both occupied. The lay-bye sidings at the east and west end of Maynooth were used for shunting Liner and ESSO Oil trains clear of the main line when up and down passenger trains were crossing up to the early 2000s. A section of the Up main line at the Dublin end of Drumree on the Meath Line was retained as a siding to serve a (new) goods shed after the line was singled by the GSR. Cherryville Junction-Kilkenny. Kilberry: A section of the former Down main line was retained as a siding to serve the Kilberry Moss Peat factory until disconnected in 1975. Carlow: A 3/4 mile section of the former Up main line was retained to serve the Carlow Beet Factory opened in 1926, rail borne beet traffic appears to have ceased during the late 60s/early 70s though the factory dispatched train loads of export sugar in ISO containers during the early 1970s. Bridges and Structures Bridges and Structures on main lines built during the 19th Century were were normally designed or built and enough land taken to accommodate double track at a later date, one of the main exceptions was Killarney Junction to Killarney, though the Killarney-Tralee section were built to accommodate double track.
  5. MGWR Double Tracked Sections. Main Line--------Broadstone-Ballinasloe, Attymon Junction-Athernry, Oranmore-Galway. Ballinasloe-Woodlawn-Attymon Junction and Athernry-Oranmore were always single tracked. Liffey Branch---Liffey Junction-North Wall Midland. Meath Line----Clonsilla Junction-Drumree Sligo Line-----Mullingar-Longford Carrignagat Junction(later Ballysodare)-Sligo Mayo Line---Athlone-Roscommon The Midland operated a relatively sparse passenger service and double track not really essential from an operational perspective, for instance the Midland only operated 2-3 return passenger trains and 1 return goods daily between Broadstone-Navan-Kingscourt during the 19th Century. The Main Line, Sligo and Mayo Lines would have been busier with Day and Night Mail trains and heavier goods traffic. The double tracking of much of the MGWR was possibly driven by a 19th Century Board of Trade expectation that 'main lines" should be double track to avoid head-on collisions in the days before the development of effective single track signal systems.
  6. Most likely Portadown -Derry and Belfast-Comber Passenger traffic on the Derry Road appears to have held up well until closure with, long trains and relatively frequent passenger service by Irish standards. Belfast-Comber appears to have been a busy commuter line with heavy passenger traffic. Most closed CIE lines had sparse services (1-2 trains daily) and carried light traffic.
  7. Waterford once Irelands largest station in terms of the number of platforms with relatively few passenger trains! Platforms 1 & 2 Bay platforms east end of the station filled in 1967 for car parking. Platforms 1 & 2 appear to have been used for diesel loco stabling and re-fueling before their removal here is a 1963 photo of a pair of B141s, a B101 and a fuel tank wagon in this area in Irish Railways in Colour from steam to Diesel. Platforms 3-4 were the main passenger platform, 3 at the east end-4 at the west end. At one stage there was a cross-over midway along the platform allowing the platform to be worked in two sections. Platform 5 was a passenger bay before being re-built and extended as the current platform. Bay Platform 6 lost its designation as a passenger platform at some stage during the 60-70s. Bay Platforms 7-8 at the west end of the station were filled in and converted to bus parking.
  8. Some completed wagons! 20T Brake with metal sheeted duckets 23544 Based on a late 60s early 70s photo of the van in Tralee complete with torpedo roof vents. I am planning to supply this version of the brake van in undecorated CKD form complete with decals and roof vents on a pre-order basis 12-14 week delivery. "Hybrid" ex-GSWR van 15653 with metal sheeted sides and ends planked doors, I am again planning to release this van in undecorated CKD form with decals (Snail & Wheel) & running nos. CIE 1946 H Van 17200. with metal sheeted body. currently available from stock in CKD form with CIE snail and wheel logos and choice of 10 sets of running nos. The LMA and ex-GSWR planked van are also currently available from stock. John
  9. The Irish Traction Group was established and lead by a group of enthusiasts from Great Britain who were not only prepared to put their money in their pockets to buy the locos, but regularly spend their weekends and spare time volunteering in Ireland not only to restore their own locos, but physically assist Irish based preservation groups with tracklaying and other assistance.
  10. Came across this on a Shortline while visiting family in the Mid-West about 20 years ago. Not quite 121s and 20T hopper wagons, infrastructure in a better state than the Kingscourt Branch or Westport Quay back in the day. Both trains were parked on the "main line" locos locked and crews gone home or for a break, one facing South one North about 10 miles apart one in a town at an elevator the other out in the middle of the Prairie. Typical small town serving the original freight house and elevator with additional steel grain bins, in this case receiving plastic pellets. Should have stuck to the American modelling than going down the Irish 21mm gauge Rabbit Hole
  11. The local equivalent are commercial tourist operations that use self-drive rail buggies on 'mothballed' lines. https://www.forgottenworldadventures.co.nz/ https://railcruising.com/ Not convinced many people would be prepared to pay €160 for an adult or €370 per family for a half day "Rail Cart" cruise on the Burma Road or other mothballed line.
  12. The 121 Class hauled push-pull sets were developed possibly as an interim solution for upgrading the rolling stock used on Dublin-Drogheda suburban services after the Government refused to provide funding for IEs proposal to build a fleet of diesel electric railcars to replace loco hauled trains on suburban and branch line/secondary main line services. The original intention was to build the MK3 Push-Pull Trailers as diesel-electric railcars, the Push-Pull trailer cars were originally class as Railcar Trailer Cars in the BREL drawings. The Power Cars were intended to have underfloor power units driving AC traction motors hence the LHB bogies used in the 6 Push-Pull Trailer cars. In the bigger scheme of things livery used by CIE/IE as a monopoly rail operator is irrelevant in terms of branding or encouraging people to use rail, clean reliable trains that operate on a convenient timetable on a reasonable fare structure are far more important than livery and branding.
  13. At the time it was planned to introduce the MK3 Push-Pull sets and push pull equipped 121s in a "suburban" livery with a green strips. Nots sure if any Push Pull MK3 received the livery, mentioned in the IRRS Journal and other enthusiasts news letters
  14. Could not resist adding the elevator section and posing the model on the layout. The original plan was to have the familiar Roman Island elevation on the viewing side, but the boss (daughter) prefers the Quayside elevation. The Head House just about clears the brackets for the upper shelf, though may be barely visible when I install the lighting pelmet. I better get round to finishing the locomotive and wagons on the workbench!
  15. I needed a break from computer work on the weekend and made a start on assembling the Mill First stage was to glue the concrete frame overlays to the wall panels main/structure with white glue before gluing the assembled panels together. The clamp used for joining the panels together are available from Micromark in the United States, not sure where I got the bar clamps possibly Eileens or at an exhibition. Basic structure and inner roof glued together, I used the bar clamps to correct a slight bow in the ply panels Main structure and headhouse Roman Island elevation. I omitted the uppermost section of the head house from the model. The small slot on the left hand side of the mill is for loading grain into wagons or road vehicles, the two openings at first floor level were used for loading bagged meal and possibly flour into covered wagons or road vehicles. Westport Quay Mill was completed in 1904 and the loading chutes set up for loading the short soft topped convertible wagons of the time and unsuitable for the longer "hard topped" wagons introduced 10-12 years later. South/East Elevation Quayside Elevation, the plain panel and projecting section of the roof is part of an elevator used for unloading/loading? ships, the final stage of the main assembly. Next job before fixing windows and doors is to select a colour that looks like weathered concrete!
  16. I did a partial re-paint of a Bachmann "Fina" tank wagon to look more like an Irish wagon https://www.hattons.co.uk/23604/bachmann_branchline_37_658_14_ton_tank_wagon_in_fina_livery_140/stockdetail by masking the "Fuel Oil and star markings The Bachmann cradle and anchor mounted tanks are reasonably close to the wagons used by the "Irish" oil companies, main problem Bachmann does not appear to sell an-undecorated version of either type. The ESSO tank wagon is a Hornby (former Airfix/GMR) model similar in general outline to the type of wagon used by ESSO Teo before the arrival of the 'modern" Charles Roberts wagons in the late 60s. There is a video somewhere (Markle?) of a loose coupled ESSO Oil train leaving Sligo made up of several different types of wagon
  17. Like most of my layouts Northwharf has been going through something of a hiatus as I lost interest after getting trains up and running despite the arrival of the Peckett in late January. The next challenge is to assemble the mill/grain elevator the laser cut parts arrived today! I originally looked at building the mill using 3D printed panels similar to the Design Preservation Models modules for American Industrial buildings, the down side was cost and warping of the 3D printed parts. The set of parts was prepared by Craftmaster a locally based model maker, complete with a very useful set of instructions. I reduced the height of the mill by one story in order to model the head house a prominent feature of the Westport Mill. I was particularly impressed by the laser cut windows with rather fine glazing bars. All I need to do is assemble, paint and weather the model
  18. Mayner

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    There are two options for shipping by DHL DTP (Delivery Duty and Tax Paid as offered by Hattons where DHLs customs clearance fee and the VAT is charged up front in the price. The second option is DHL DIP (Delivery in Place) where the customer pays the Customs clearance fee and VAT to DHL upon arrival. I have used both systems for shipping items >€150 to Ireland and the EU. The DIP option actually works out between €5-10 cheaper per order for the customer than the DTP option after paying the DHL fee and Vat upon arrival. Hattons include a margin in their pricing for the additional overheads in using the DHL DTP system and EU Vat registration/IOSS system, which adds to the total price paid by the customer. Royal Mail-An Post is the cheapest option for orders above €150 as the fee charged by An Post is a lot lower than DHL provided the overseas shipper uses the correct Taric Code. It would be worth checking with Hattons or other UK suppliers whether they offer a DIP rather than a DTP option shipping by DHL.
  19. There is very little published information on Dublin and Meath locos, the best source is the IRRS library. John O'Meara published a paper on the history of the Meath Road in an IRRS Journal during the early 1950s and GR Mahon published a series of papers during the 1970s on developments on Irish Railways during the 1860-70s which included info on the Dublin and Meath and disposal of its locos and stock. The D&M locos and stock appear to have been acquired under a hire-purchase/leasing agreement with the "U K Rolling Stock Company" a 19th Century equivalent of a modern Vehicle Leasing/Finance Company One loco D&M No7 an 1862 Fossick & Hackworth 2-4-0 nicknamed 'Drag all" was absorbed into MGWR stock and re-numbered No 11 Meath when the Midland took over working of the line in 1869, some of the other locos and stock appear to have passed to the Athenry and Tuam. By all accounts 'drag all" was considered the only D&M loco to be in reasonable working order. The Navan-Kingscourt appears to have been worked by the MGWR from the onset with the line opening to Kilmainhamwood in 1871.
  20. The RPSI flickr collection is probably one of the best sources of station, rolling stock and loco photos, access to the collection is well worth the subscription in itself. There are a couple of photos of Trim and the branch Boyne viaduct in the IRRS flickr collection. The station building was demolished, but the goods store still standing when I griced the line during the 70s/80s.
  21. 500s train is likely be a Dublin-Cork mail train with through portions to Limerick (via Ballybrophy), Clonmel (via Thurles), Tralee (via Mallow) and Cork. CIE also operated a combined Kingsbridge-Limerick-Thurles train with a Clonmel coach which divided at Ballybrophy. Sometimes the train loco continued to Limerick while the Thurles-Clonmel branch loco (usually a large Coey 4-4-0) worked the Ballybrophy-Thurles-Clonmel portion of the train often an ex-GSWR 12-wheel "Rosslare" Brake composite. (Decade of Steam Donaldson, O'Neill and Mc'Donald 1RRS 1972. The coaches in the train appear to be relatively modern by the standards of CIE steam hauled stock during the early 1950s, the new 1951-53 stock were mainly used as trailer vehicles with the AEC railcars or used to strengthen late GSWR/GSR stock on mail line passenger trains. The Bogie Van coupled to the loco appears to be a 1920s woodenbodied GSWR/GSR vehicle, CIE did not get round to building "modern" bogie vans until 1959.
  22. The Heljan Ruston is based on the RH 165DE Class 0-6-0s diesel electric locos supplied to BR Western Region permanent way dept. The Tuam loco was a standard RH 165DH a diesel hydraulic 0-4-0 supplied to CSE. The RH 165 DE & DH were manufactured in 0-4-0 & 0-6-0 format The main spotting difference between the DH & DE versions was the coupling rods were driven by a jackshaft arrangement (behind the cab steps) on the diesel hydraulics. The Heljan loco has the raked cab front fitted to later later versions of both DH & DE locos.
  23. CSE had RH 88DS shunters at the Carlow, Mallow and Thurles factories, Tuam had one of the larger more powerful 165DH locos. The 88DS at the various plants appear to have been supplied in an all plain green livery with red buffers, the individual plants developed their own variations of the livery as locos were re-painted/overhauled. There is a 1960 in photo of the Carlow DS and Sugar Puff No3 in service at the factory in Irish Railways in Colour a Second Glance. The 88DS is in overall green (including chassis) with red buffers (including head) but no running number or cabside RH makers plate. The photo is interesting showing the diesel coupled to an Bulleid open and H Vans loaded/waiting loading outside the plant. Besides receiving beet, coal and limestone, beet pulp and the finished product was sent out by rail during the wagon load era for both the domestic and export markets. IRRS journals from the early 70s indicate that Carlow and other factories regularly shipped train loads of export sugar in 8'6" Containers on (20' Flats) as out of gauge loads. When acquired from CSE the RPSI 88DS had green cab and engine housing on a black chassis with red buffer shanks and "Cómhlucht Siúicre Éireann" in gold lettering immediately above the access panels on engine housing. My 88DS a long discontinued Impetus kit is based on a 1980 photo of the loco at Whitehead, my unsuccessful attempt at Cómhlucht using dry print lettering is just about visible on the side of the bonnet. My locos was built to 21mm gauge hence the wheels outside the track
  24. Andy's combination of London Road LNWR Special Tank and DX splashers with 5'2" wheels is probably the best option for building a DNGR Tank. I tried building a DNGR tank using a whitemetal GEM LNWR Special Tank and a brass chassis using Alan Gibson main frames, the model was not a success as I could not get sufficient clearance for the larger wheels in the whitemetal kity body and I was not too impressed with the quality of the castings. Richard Hobbs produces a Shapeways 3D printed GNR JT 2-4-2T which can be finished to a reasonable standard using plasticard overlays to the sidetanks https://www.shapeways.com/product/322AX6GR7/4mm-scale-gnri-jt-tank-body-shell-16-5mm-gauge, A OO Works UG 0-6-0 would pass muster on the goods, for those with a bit more determination Studio Scale Models produce an AL 0-6-0 and a PP4-4-0. ALs would have worked goods and cattle trains after the GNR took over working the DNGR during the 30s, PPs could have appeared on Greenore-Belfast Boat Trains and excursions to an from different parts on the GNR. The beauty of a relatively small but busy terminus like Greenore is that you don't need a lot of locos or stock to operate the layout, 2-3 DNGR Tanks, a GNR 2-4-2T, a couple of 0-6-0 to work the goods and cattle specials, half a dozen 6 wheel coaches and 20 or so wagons, being a junction terminus with lines to Newry and Dundalk considerably increases to operating interest compared with a typical Branch Line terminus 6-12 months spent assembling/building a loco kit such as an AL or PP does not add up to a major commitment in terms of time or money.
  25. I always thought the as-delivered gray and yellow B121 colour scheme was reasonably practicable like other 1960s "dip job" schemes distinctive and cheaper to apply than the later Black and Tan and Supertrain schemes. For many years the Louisville & Nashville, the Clinchfield both coal hauling railroads and their successor CSX painted their locos in a light (Confererate) Gray livery similar to the as delivered B121 Class. The Clinchfield was a steeply graded mountain railroad with many tunnels, while the Mid West/Eastern US climate tends to be drier with less rainfall than Ireland, US locos tend to be covered in a coat of grime in winter time While the 2 stroke General Motors locos like the Clinchfield F Units did not produce much smoke 4 stroke locos like L&N General electrics like 1481 could put out as much black smoke or clag as a steam loco.
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