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Got more info on it, having had tea, and searched archives in the untidy cupboard behind me. The DWWR withdrew it in 1891 and sold it to W M Murphy & Co., a contractor. Murphy was engaged in building the Bantry extension of the CBSCR at the time, so it is likely that it ended up down there somewhere. There seems to be no further record of it - at some thirty years old by the time the Bantry line was open, Murphy probably scrapped it. It had the name "Oberon", but never carried a number. My grandfather was born in 1880, so if he did take that picture, he'd have been very young (11 at most!). Perhaps he didn't, in which case I have no idea who did, as the negative is in among old family photos which he certainly DID take. The earliest photos he is known to have been responsible for date from about 1905. So it remains an item of interest! Regarding livery, DWWR locos were green at first, but some at least (obviously including the above) painted a red colour for a while in the late 1880s / early 90s - but lined black after that until GSR grey appeared in 1925.

Very interesting - I've long thought that there ought to be a book on this! Not all that much my thing either, as industrials aren't quite my area of interest, but an excellent addition to the overall railway press.

Brilliant, Leslie. Was looking for references to it but cannot put my hands on Ernie's book. Any idea when it was withdrawn?

OK, boys'n'girls; what exactly is THIS, and where? Found in a newly-unearthed packet of negatives among Senior's stuff.

Let's hope they aren't. The level of inaccuracies in Indakinny's series was disastrous. Dreadfully bad research. Let's hope they actually research it!

More from Senior's archives..... This is DWWR No. 19, possibly at Bray? Date unknown, but among the earliest of my grandfather's (very few!) photos. (H J A Beaumont)

Sadly, it’s way too far gone. Best to measure it up & use the metal bits to build a replica.

By “corrugated” I meant the Bullied ones….. yes, maybe with vans?

Recent pokings about in my researches turned up the fact that a film crew involved in filming "Alfred the Great" in 1968 in Co. Galway, near Loughrea, turned up at the station one day and filmed quite a bit of a PW gang working on the track over the first 2 miles or so out of Loughrea. I wonder if anyone knows where the footage is!

Indeed - It's actually of BNCR origin. That's exactly what it is, yes, a standard BNCR goods brake. Several survived in use well into UTA days.

Suppose I went to a location and did the panoramic thing with my phone. What then, and how long could it be made into? I’ve about a 30ft length to do round 3 walls.

That’s exactly the type of thing I want. How do you go about doing that and printing it out?

I forgot to also mention beet….. 1. Loose coupled wagons of both corrugated and timber with brake van. 2. Same, but the wooden wagons have gone (circa 1972). 3. “Double deck” corrugated wagons (now painted brown) up to the end (2006).

One of the extremely few times a double-headed train ever appears at Dugort Harbour; a mystery train arrives from Cork in summer 1966. Here it is ready to leave, and crossing the Dugort river bridge….. Now, an issue. The background is (left) a backscene which many of us got free with a Christmas railway mag (can’t recall which). It looks a bit rich - or “tropical” - for the type of location in which “Dugort” is meant to be situated. On the right is bare wall. If anything, this almost suits the thing better, as it looks like a gloomy “about-to-rain” wide western sky. Look at the pic left and right. I want to convey wide, vacant spaces like you get in flat areas of the west, or between my ears after a bottle’o’port, not verdant pastures. With some 50% of the extension to this layout bring on a comparatively narrow shelf, the backscene stuck to the wall behind it - and behind Dugort terminus - will be important to get right.

I'm on your page 100%; but then, I would be!

Fertliser wagons, as in IRM bogies of recent times, 4-wheel cement "bubbles"* and Guinness "cages" on, initially 4-wheel and later bogie flats. * Never saw bogie cements on mixed goods trains.

Mixed rakes, yes, but only two or three varieties; typical at the time was bubbles, fert and Guinness.

…..and I had a conversation once with a fairly well known preservationist, whose technical knowledge and expertise and skills are very rightly widely respected, and he said the 800s were “awkward” looking!!!

They’ve obviously never seen Maedb, nor many MGWR, WLWR & GSWR designs, or Beyer Peacock export locos! (…….I’ll get me coat…..)

Correct. “Works Grey” - including full lining & numbering for same effect. “Works Grey”, as it was known, for works official purposes only. “Proper” livery applied before entry to traffic. In most, though not all, cases, this temporary “fifty shades of grey” was applied to just one member of a class, purely for photos. Sometimes on one side only!

Swiss??? Wow…. GNR(I) outpost in the Alps!

Any idea where they got the "p+t" logo from, ttc0169?

BIG fees for parasitic "consultant" cronies of Boorish johnston......

Very many thanks, just a bit o'craic!

I would presume that if they ever did, they’d cover all ten liveries they had, as they did with the A’s. Dugort Harbour has two Cs right now, both Silverfox, one all-black, and the unique C231 dark green one.