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Likewise with me - very helpful.

Very nice little set-up indeed, with plenty of visual variety for a space like that. One small suggestion might be that the old loco shed is actually (originally) an old goods shed, as there's a platform beside it - and with the inspection pit on the adjacent line you could pretend that that's where a loco shed USED to be....

An interesting little detail here, and something I haven’t seen ever yet in model form, is the pre-mid-50s slightly darker wagon grey plus lower-placed “eau-de-nil” snail, which only the very first “H” vans would have had, and not for long! First wagon behind loco…..

Exact same with GSR & CIE steam engines. While some WERE black rather than grey, many people thought that many more were too, due to dirt - and soot! All were grey* until the mid-50s, and most were even after that. A steam engine uncared for gets a whole lot dirtier than a diesel, and quicker, though Crossley-engined "A"'s were very much up there with steam, if not sometimes even worse. (* bar the green ones. Ye know what I mean! )

True, though my point about the 121s was that even the body got dirty - a strange colour for a railway loco and even more so considering that when the 121s were new and in that livery, they were still working alongside steam engines! Worse, the "silver" A, C and B101 classes had SILVER bogies - until they'd been in use for an hour or so.......... And today's 071s, same - Inchicore's 1915 decision to paint everything on wheels grey lives on!

And yet for almost all of railway history the wagons had the same colour as the body - which was often grey of various shades including light grey.... I remember thinking the 2600 railcars looked odd when they appeared in the "Fanta can" livery with grey chassis. Naturally, like a light grey 121 or a grey steam engine, brake dust and general gunk soon became the "livery" of the wheel area plus the body - but it did exactly the same if the chassis was initially brown or black!

Well done, Ernie, good to see you back, best wishes!

Ah! I mustn’t have known them….!

Were they sniped?

I’ll check out a few pics and report back if I see anything relevant!

I think the lights are the same - the left-hand image looks compressed…..

Couldn't agree more, Hexagon - some Wiki stuff is is 100% on the money and well written, but other stuff there is drivel or a misleading half-story!

Definitely snipers, then.....

I think if you emailed the ITG they might be able to point you towards some back issues or other info. Good luck! A bit too modern for me to be able to be of much direct assistance but I hope you find what you need.

Ah, ok. Do you have the ITG books about diesels? There’s tabular stuff there. For day-to-day alterations, livery changes and info on what’s running and what’s stored, the IRRS or ITG journals would be the best source.

Correct, DJ. Completely brown from the very start of bogie wagons, except Taras (blue, like body), Ammonias (dark green like lower body) and shale in original duck-egg blue livery - black bogies. The brown with little black fiddly bits in them is recent; the black with little blue, green or yellow fiddly bits is even more recent. Fertilisers, for example, all brown. Current timber wagons, multicoloured.

Do you mean the original “C” class or the 1996 ones?

Second part of this is on tomorrow (Tuesday) night at 19:30, for those whop have access to UTV.

Superb stuff. The quality of the 3D prints is outstanding - the very best I've seen.

I dare not suggest bringing back steam locomotives!

As a very satisfied customer of the first KMCE wagons, I can thoroughly recommend them. Despite their archaic appearance, vehicles such as this were commonplace well into the 1950s, thus the "A" class era, though they were beginning to get thin on the ground about then. Some lasted until the very early 1960s, at which time despite Inchicore building new wagons at a serious rate, 80-year-old goods vehicles could still be seen. More than a few may be seen in photos of the West Cork system in 1960/1, and I have seen very late 50s pictures of vehicles of this era in many other places. I particularly recall seeing a very old van at Adare many years ago, and others (GN / NCC origin) in Belfast in the 1960s. So these are suitable for an GSR or CIE layout as well as pre-1925, and many survived to become clad in flying snails. Last of the very ancient stock in actual service was probably about 1963/4, so a 121 or at an absolute stretch maybe a 141 could have hauled one amongst newer wagons and recently acquired ex-GNR stock.

Absolutely superb. if that is a FIRST attempt, it promises of amazing stuff to come!

Thank you, Tony, much appreciated. A further railway programme is in planning stage and will probably be shot during next summer, though it will depend on whether the RPSI, DCDR and other preserved lines are fully up and running again depending on covid restrictions.

Just seen flashing yellow & white lights heading south out of Malahide (00:32). What could that be? Some sort of yellow machine? (Or a UFO?)