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Absolutely top class job - I've been following this one with interest. It's not often too, that accurate notice is taken of the thinner white line on these coaches. One small point though - nothing black'n'tan would ever have had a grey roof - always black; however, such were the deprivations of rust and exhaust, that roofs on these things tended to be sixty shades of black, filth, greys, browns, rust and general gunk! Unlike passenger-carrying stock, all sorts of genny vans from tin vans through to Dutch and BR types, tended to be washed less frequently, and thus show up often as more weathered than accompanying Park Royals, Cravens and laminates. So if this one is to be as pristine as the sides, a black roof would probably be better with very light weathering, depicting something just out of Inchicore (but not to stay that way, probably, for long!). If a weathered, worn, roof is preferred, a good degree of brake dust in the nether regions, and side weathering, would look more fitting. (NB: grey roofs with green livery, even then, in latter "green" days, sometimes black).

Many thanks, folks.

Late forties, I'd say. Clothing looks even 1950s; could it be around closure time? If it is, the loco still hasn't ben renumbered 214 by the UTA - most were by then, a few weren't.

I didn't notice it at first, to be honest. Your remedy will doubtless fix it. A third volume under consideration....... if anyone can lend me some days with 25 hours in them, and weeks with nine days.....!

OUTSTANDING! Well done gents!

Looks fantastic! Well done!

The three way point is a great space saver and invaluable for small-space layouts. Double slips likewise in some cases.

Superb stuff - how much has changed. The modern railway is little better than a graffiti-scrawled Luas set! Go back a decade earlier than the above and there's even more! The "black'n'tan" era!

I have found an old Worsley laminate brake standard (set of sides etc). Does anyone have any thoughts as to what might be a suitable donor chassis / bogies, both as a strictly accurate representation, and possibly a cheaper compromise that looks acceptable?

What sort of space have you available? I, too, am currently planning a small shunting type layout to amuse myself with. Prototypes I had considered were short harbour lines like Sligo Quay, or small termini like Courtmacsherry, Fintona or Westport Quay. I have a rough idea of the once-proposed terminus at Belmullet, which would have been long and narrow had it been built. One can retain the narrowness, but shorten it considerably if space dictates. Castleisland, again shortened, would also make an interesting small terminus. I had also considered the highly unusual Terenure terminus of the Dublin & Blessington, which was extremely cramped. Such a terminus, dare I say, has "Holman" written all over it!!!! In narrow gauge, a small terminus with shunting in mind would be well represented by Castlegregory.

Lever on left....

Awaiting with interest! (Or are they getting ready for Brexit!!!?)

LIST OF 009 / H0e EQUIPMENT FOR SALE I need to fund some 00 stuff! LOCOMOTIVES Original box (Y = yes, N = no) Price € 3 x Liliput 2095 class diesel (OBB 1980s red livery) 2 x Liliput 2091 class (centre cab) diesel (OBB 1980s red livery) 1 x Liliput 0.6.0T tank engine (repainted plain black) 1 x Atlas 0.6.0 diesel shunter (repainted plain green) 3 x “Varikit” 0.6.0T on Arnold chassis (need attention) plain black N Y N N N 145.00 each 155.00 each 40.00 40.00 10.00 each COACHING STOCK 1 x Liliput 4 wheel coach Austrian (brown; steel sided) 4 x Liliput 4 wheel coach (brown; vertical wood panelling) 1 x Liliput “Fiery Elias” bogie coach (green) 1 x Dundas orig. style kit built Vale of Rheidol coach (plain green) 3 x Liliput Bogie coaches (2 in SKGLB green, 1 OBB brown) 2 x Liliput Bogie coaches as above, hand painted, one green, one maroon 2 x Ref. 3411 Long wheelbase 4 wheel 2nd class coach 1 x Bemo Ref. 3009 bogie third (green) 2 x Bemo bogie thirds (green) 3 x Liliput Standard OBB bogie 2nd (green) 2 x Roco standard OBB brake 2nd (geranium / cream) 1 x Roco 1st / 2nd composite (geranium / cream) 1 x Roco Standard OBB 2nd (green) N N Y N N N 1xY, 1xN Y Y** Y** N N N 25.00 25.00 each 50.00 15.00 40.00 each 25.00 each 30.00 each 40.00 40.00 each 42.00 each 50.00 each 50.00 50.00 WAGONS ETC. Liliput L371013 OBB Packwagen (mid green) Liliput 4 wheel passenger brake van 4 x Long wheelbase 4 wheel goods vans (2 brown, 2 green) 6 x Short wheelbase 4 wheel goods vans (3 brown, 3 grey) 2 x 6 wheel goods vans (brown) 1 x Open wagon with coal load (grey) Y Y* N N 1xN, 1xN N 22.00 19.00 25.00 each 15.00 each 25.00 each 12.00 OTHER I have the usual boxes of bits and pieces – wheels, a couple of spare motors, and parts of kits. In particular, an Arnold 2.6.0 chassis in working order and most of the parts for a Tralee & Dingle locomotive kit. I will include the lot if anyone is buying a lot from me. 1 x kit of “Golden Arrow” productions Southwold Railway brass coach kit. Untouched and unmade. I have a scratchbuilt narrow gauge tender loco with “side skirts”, loosely based on a Javanese main (narrow gauge) line 2.4.0. Working order, but underpowered as it has a tender motor and there isn’t much weight in the tender. I have several lengths of PECO Streamline 009 gauge track and sets of points. N n/a 15.00 15.00 Points 7.50 each Track 5.00 per length . * Original box, but box not in good condition . ** In box, but not original Payment accepted via sterling or euro cheque, bank transfer or paypal. Prices exclude postage. Prices are in euros – deduct 10% for sterling equivalent. In all cases I am prepared to discuss a price for more than one item.

I'm putting this list up on "for sale". LIST OF 009 / H0e EQUIPMENT FOR SALE LOCOMOTIVES Original box (Y = yes, N = no) Price € 3 x Liliput 2095 class diesel (OBB 1980s red livery) 2 x Liliput 2091 class (centre cab) diesel (OBB 1980s red livery) 1 x Liliput 0.6.0T tank engine (repainted plain black) 1 x Atlas 0.6.0 diesel shunter (repainted plain green) 3 x “Varikit” 0.6.0T on Arnold chassis (need attention) plain black N Y N N N 145.00 each 155.00 each 40.00 40.00 10.00 each COACHING STOCK 1 x Liliput 4 wheel coach Austrian (brown; steel sided) 4 x Liliput 4 wheel coach (brown; vertical wood panelling) 1 x Liliput “Fiery Elias” bogie coach (green) 1 x Dundas orig. style kit built Vale of Rheidol coach (plain green) 3 x Liliput Bogie coaches (2 in SKGLB green, 1 OBB brown) 2 x Liliput Bogie coaches as above, hand painted, one green, one maroon 2 x Ref. 3411 Long wheelbase 4 wheel 2nd class coach 1 x Bemo Ref. 3009 bogie third (green) 2 x Bemo bogie thirds (green) 3 x Liliput Standard OBB bogie 2nd (green) 2 x Roco standard OBB brake 2nd (geranium / cream) 1 x Roco 1st / 2nd composite (geranium / cream) 1 x Roco Standard OBB 2nd (green) N N Y N N N 1xY, 1xN Y Y** Y** N N N 25.00 25.00 each 50.00 15.00 40.00 each 25.00 each 30.00 each 40.00 40.00 each 42.00 each 50.00 each 50.00 50.00 WAGONS ETC. Liliput L371013 OBB Packwagen (mid green) Liliput 4 wheel passenger brake van 4 x Long wheelbase 4 wheel goods vans (2 brown, 2 green) 6 x Short wheelbase 4 wheel goods vans (3 brown, 3 grey) 2 x 6 wheel goods vans (brown) 1 x Open wagon with coal load (grey) Y Y* N N 1xN, 1xN N 22.00 19.00 25.00 each 15.00 each 25.00 each 12.00 OTHER I have the usual boxes of bits and pieces – wheels, a couple of spare motors, and parts of kits. In particular, an Arnold 2.6.0 chassis in working order and most of the parts for a Tralee & Dingle locomotive kit. I will include the lot if anyone is buying a lot from me. 1 x kit of “Golden Arrow” productions Southwold Railway brass coach kit. Untouched and unmade. I have a scratchbuilt narrow gauge tender loco with “side skirts”, loosely based on a Javanese main (narrow gauge) line 2.4.0. Working order, but underpowered as it has a tender motor and there isn’t much weight in the tender. I have several lengths of PECO Streamline 009 gauge track and sets of points. N n/a 15.00 15.00 Points 7.50 each Track 5.00 per length . * Original box, but box not in good condition . ** In box, but not original Payment accepted via sterling or euro cheque, bank transfer or paypal. Prices exclude postage. Prices are in euros – deduct 10% for sterling equivalent. In all cases I am prepared to discuss a price for more than one item.

Perfect! Interior colours shown too - now light grey and cream. Recollection suggests all over light grey at one time, though the above is what that loco came in..

Westport Quay or Polloxfens Mill Sidings, Ballysodare, Co Sligo.

I'll have a look. I think I have one somewhere, but not sure.

"Sweet Afton"..... in Dublin, Fruitfield jam, Ogden's Tobacco and Premier Dairies..... possibly only the tobacco out if that trio down south. Gallaghers tobacco too.

Folks I have a fair quantity of 009 material for sale, almost all of the above description. Since this is an Irish site, and 009 in general tends not to feature, it's probably not worth while listing it all here. However, just in case anyone's interested, please PM me for a full list with prices. I will also advertise it via the 009 Society and the Austrian Railway Group. JB

They had "flip-down" seats against the rear cab end, but no use to driver unless resting after the trip! They were more for someone extra like a loco inspector travelling with a driver. To drive you must stand, though.

About time.

Especially for UTA. Nondescript dirt really is the only realistic thing there. CIE stock was just as tatty into the late 1950s, though all grey initially; but once steam disappeared you'd need to be more careful of correct livery as goods stock was somewhat tidier from the 60s.

Interesting point you raise, ei6jf. It could easily be assumed by many, indeed, so the point is probably worth emphasising. The Great Northern did, in later days, paint some vans brown and have them fitted for passenger trains, but as far as I can gather it was not an exact science by far, and is probably best disregarded as policy by modellers. The UTA also began to paint some vans brown, although with their almost total neglect of repainting anything, it is as likely to have been quite random!

Very handy little locos to drive. Some drivers don't like them because there's no seat and the ride is, well, jolting. Your eyeballs, false teeth and replacement hips have all fallen out half way to Inch Abbey. A run on rough falling-to-bits track to Loughrea must have been an ordeal. But having driven them, personally I like them. Chain drive is indeed usual. One of the reasons all three at Downpatrick have never been in use together is that there are five chains for three locos; each has two. New ones are readily available but at €4000 a go. These engines were in production for a long time and varied little throughout over thirty years in production. I saw a metre gauge one in Mallorca in 1993 on PW duty at Inca - its build date was 1984, I think. Early examples in Germany were built in 1951. One of the benefits of a forum like this is to see how some of our more skilled modellers make up what will become outstanding models, so the "how-I-did-it" posts are of great interest and value.

Maybe our railway staff didn't need colour coding! ;-)