jhb171achill

That was a PW trolley........

Point of order, m’lud: we never had “running in boards” here at all..... we had “station name boards”........

And Waterford now has a single platform - platform 5!!!!!!

Best option I’m aware of is the SSM scratch aid ones. Someone else (can’t recall) does kits of GSWR types too, but they seem to be similar types.

It’ll be great to see!

Correct on laminate liveries internally. Upholstery usually either black or almost black (extremely dark grey) with a very faint blue fleck through it, or lighter grey fleck.

Ooooooohhhhh!! Where’s me smelling salts!!

That looks very realistic. It’s as I remember them. The rust on the chassis and metalwork (which, of course, were the same reddish body colour when painted new) looks extremely realistic. Absolutely no problem - use away!

If that’s a pic which I posted here a few years ago, it was taken at Antrim in 1978 or thereabouts. Those wagons were very much standard opens, cut down by NIR as you say, and “NIR” painted over the faded “U T”. I’d say many standard off-the-shelf designs would suffice.

NIR never used the “day-glo”; all semaphores remained (in a few cases badly faded) ordinary red until replaced by colour lights. As far as I’m aware the first use on CIE was experimental about 1968/9. I remember jhb171Snr getting a sample of it about then. Maybe 1970.

I received said missive and perused it. A veritable cornucopia of shtuff, some even in the right liveries.....! All credit for variety and rarity value, and low price, to be fair. And some interesting 0 gauge - a rare thing in the Irish market.

When my grandfather was in Inchicore, regular visits between Inchicore, Dundalk, Swindon and Derby took place. Seniorx2 attended Derby more than once and received guests from there too. This would been later, in the 1915-30 period, I would guess in his case.

The word from jhb171seniorx2 was exactly this, and he was involved with the design work for their rebuilds. The J15 was a superb, simple, efficient and highly versatile design. No surprise that it was, even in older designs only, by light years the most numerous type of steam locomotive that Ireland ever had.

Now that looks REALLY good!

A new one to me - wow! I knew about the MPD cars.... is the implication here that in an AEC car, there was some sort of thing inside the guards compartment that swung outside at the relevant moment? I was basing my post that I’m 99% sure they didn’t have them, in reference to the idea of one externally, and thus visibly fitted. The above would solve the mystery. Nothing external, as I thought, but an internal one to do the job.

I'm pretty sure. 99.99%, that no AEC car ever had a tablet catcher. If there was one, I'd say it is a short lived one-off experiment. They'd have to attach it to what was actually a much lighter carriage body panel, much lighter than a loco side. Snatching at speed would probably tear the panel off.......

That looks really good! Keep it up......!

Preserved A class: A55 - static, Castlerea, Co Roscommon. Hells Kitchen Railway Museum. A3 - ITG owned, in storage, close to running order. A15 - ITG owned, in storage unrestored. A39 - ITG owned, close to running order, restored at Downpatrick. Others all scrapped.

Really great job, Galteemore!

I've seen much of his stuff and its very interesting. As said, many of his pictures have been published over the years. Let us hope that the new owner will allow the collection to remain accessible by the public, rather than secreted away like some collections. The late Richard Casserley was always very helpful to researchers.

Beware of the "agents"!

Not necessarily. No reason to doubt it, of course, but the Railway Signal Company’s products were used all over Britain too, and their “empire”. I saw such stuff still in use in Myanmar In February.

Precisely, totally, exactly what I will be trying to recreate. Same period. In your scenario, if you even push it out to 1964/5, you can include an occasional brand new Craven or 141, and obviously even in 1963, black'n'tan carriages are just starting to appear. In your scenario, old GSWR stock, Bredins, laminates of various types and Park Royals will be interspersed with much (if not most) of a myriad of old GNR types, variously in brown, navy & cream, CIE green in black'n'tan, while the odd laminate is still very dirty "silver". You've old GNR parcel vans in brown or green, and brand new CIE "tin vans", and even an occasional old GSWR 6-wheeled full brake all possible. My own scenario is based somewhere in the "Deep South" - maybe Waterford, Co. Cork or Kerry, so ex-GNR stock while possible is less likely. About 1959/60 an old wooden brown GNR coach appeared on the West Cork system briefly. I might eventually have a green or black'n'tan K15......

Ed The so-called "pairs" went well back before IE times. I recall the first time I saw a 121 in the new "Supertrain" livery - it was a Cork train about to leave Heuston (what's now Platform 5) in 1972. Up front was a pair of pristine newly-painted 121s. Pairs of 141s were to be seen on main lines in the 1960s too - while I never saw a paired 121 at that time, I'm sure it happened if it did with 141s. I recall the goods passing through Lisburn with a pair of 141s on more than one occasion about 1968/9 or so.

The roof profile certainly looks DSER - a bit steep for GSWR, I would have thought though maybe it's the angle? The wide chassis also might add to this, though other examples existed. Might this coach be one of the two that Ernie Shepherd mentioned? CIE do seem, though, to have started to eliminate DSER coaches with indecent haste - even by 1950 their ranks were well thinned. Photos of the Harcourt Street line pre-AEC railcars show up numerous GSWR & MGWR types.