jhb171achill

Brilliant work. It truly was a most oddball looking yoke, wasn't it!

What about an 071 covered in 1970s wallpaper.....?

Steam hauled passenger trains ran here and there until early 1963. Tin luggage vans were to be seen behind them on many an occasion - often with ancient wooden coaches!

Looks good!

An hour or two in Portadown? Did you not have a better defence barrister, Tony?

TOP class!

Aaaaarrrrggghhh!!

Lovely setting. The signal, it should be noted, isn't original.

A "woolly"..... Visions of an eco-friendly sheep-hauled train! Excellent.... The last Woolies in traffic were 376 (withdrawn 1961) and 388 (1962). Another eight had lasted until 1959 / 60.

Re-reading my post above it suggests that that tin vans were a variety of genny vans, which they obviously weren't. I should have added the difference between a steam van, a luggage van and a genny! I was merely trying to suggest what was at the back of the train in the "green silver grey" era and the 60s!

Gen vans....... "tin vans" were used from end of steam (when they became necessary) to 1970 or so when the Dutch and BRs were in service. Some tin vans were still in use around 1976-7. The last coaches still in green would have been about 1966.

Top class work, excellent!

I can't be certain, David, but I suspect the front "buffer beam" was black, judging by close inspection of photos. So, white roof, grey cab and body, including strapping, black chassis as a railcar would be.

Absolutely brilliant, Tony. Selwyn already has a considerable archive of recordings of ex GNR, SLNCR, CDR and BCDR men. Mostly GNR. Very very valuable work now in recording the first hand experiences of the last ones standing, for all time.

Tony, is Selwyn aware of this man for his interview archive?

Fantastic job! Count me in for a D16 Achill Bogie! n for

Brilliant - so very realistic.

Does that produce the old proper brown colour, Waffles, (which is correct for a guards van or any 4 wheeled goods van) or the modern reddish tone as seen on the very rare newly painted thing nowadays (which isn't)?

Fantastic stuff, gentlemen, many thanks!

That's a Drumm, yes, the first one. jhb171Senior-senior designed the bodywork......

A thing to be aware of is the two shades. The CIE brown has variously been called "brown", "bauxite" and "red oxide". If you look at some of the excellent colour pics online (flickr for example) by "Irishswissernie" of this world, you'll see that it was a distinct brown up to the time the ferts didn't run any more. It didn't have the distinct reddish tint you see now. This is why you'll see nowadays a reddish tint on the smear of paint behind a newly stencilled number; the underlying brown on the rest of the body is the "real" colour. I saw a pic somewhere of a model CIE brake van in the modern reddish-bauxit-ey colour but all wagons, PW included (when not yellow!) should not carry the reddish colour that the old guard's van parked up in Limerick has. Have a look at photos online and in some colour books relating to the 1970-onwards period and you'll see there's no reddish tint..... Incidentally, pre-brown (about 1970), absolutely everything, PW, bubbles and all, was grey of one sort or another - except tankers!

Brilliant, Rich, many thanks. I was sure there was a picture of one when quite new among Senior's stuff, but I can't find it..... maybe I was wrong!

Beautiful house!

That is indeed the one.